08/18/88: WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM by Delphi, | Category: Delphi - Utilities & Applications | 8 comments - (Comments are closed)

WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM

44300 18AUG88-2343 Utilities & Applications
WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM
From: USERDENIS To: ALL

When I backup my Window Master Finder v1.0 disk, I cannot use this copy,
the drive 0 does not stop turning and the joysticj does not respond. In
the instruction manual, they sais that BACKUP command can be used to
backup the original disk that I have. The original disk works fine.

Any idea ???????

Thanks

8 comments to WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM

  • pucc_unknown

    44303 19AUG88-0058 Utilities & Applications
    RE: WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM (Re: Msg 44300)
    From: ARTFLEXSER To: USERDENIS

    Does the manual imply that the backup copy can be run just like the original?
    Some programs can be backed up, but only to make a nonrunnable
    copy to be used to restore the original disk i it should get trashed.
    Perhaps that’s what Window Master does??
    (I presume you have tried making another backup to see if that
    works any better than the first?)

  • pucc_unknown

    44306 19AUG88-0218 Utilities & Applications
    RE: WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM (Re: Msg 44300)
    From: MARTYGOODMAN To: USERDENIS

    Cercomp programs are heavily protected, and cannot
    be run from any other than the MASTER disk.

    They do ask you to make a backup, so that IF the master
    gets trashed, in some cases you MIGHT be able to restore
    it by backing up FROM the backup TO the master.

    But the master has special weird tracks written ABOVE track 35,
    (er.. make that above track 34) which are NOT affected by BASIC’s
    backup command and are critical for the protection scheme to work.

    —marty

  • pucc_unknown

    44315 19AUG88-2011 Utilities & Applications
    RE: WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM (Re: Msg 44306)
    From: USERDENIS To: MARTYGOODMAN

    The problem involved is that I want to send Window Master to my 80 tracks,
    96 TPI drive that I use with ADOS3, and eventually to the hard-disk. If
    I cannot do that because of a unadvertised and abusive protection, I will
    return the program to vendor.

    Thanks

  • pucc_unknown

    44319 19AUG88-2115 Utilities & Applications
    RE: WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM (Re: Msg 44315)
    From: MARTYGOODMAN To: USERDENIS

    I urge you to communicate you desire to Cercomp, who
    sold you the product.

    It is quite possible that they will be willing o
    to take back your 35 track disk and make an 80 track disk
    version for you. It is highly UNLIKELY Bill Vergona
    will deprotect the program for you!!!

    But your really should call him and speak to him about this
    matter. Your situation is a CLASSIC example of how
    “protection” hurts legitimate users.

    Note that if you have acess to an IBM PC with a Copy 2 PC
    option board and one 40 track and one 80 track
    drive of the type you have on your coco, you can
    probably duplicate Window Master on to the 80 track
    media of your choice. All of Bill’s stuff, so far,
    copies without problem using Copy 2 PC option boards.

    —marty

  • pucc_unknown

    44337 20AUG88-0151 Utilities & Applications
    RE: WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM (Re: Msg 44319)
    From: ARTFLEXSER To: MARTYGOODMAN

    Have you tried Spit ‘n Image (for the CoCo) on any Cercomp
    programs? That has a pretty good record for copying protected disks.

  • pucc_unknown

    44345 20AUG88-0400 Utilities & Applications
    RE: WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM (Re: Msg 44337)
    From: MARTYGOODMAN To: ARTFLEXSER

    Yes.. Spitini was, overall, the all time best of its kind on
    the CoCo. No… I did not try it… once you have Copy 2 PC,
    you tend not to waste time with other, less capable clone systems.

    I will say that when I WAS testing Copy 2 PC out, there were
    some disks Spitini could not copy that Copy 2 PC could,
    but never vice versa.

    —marty

  • pucc_unknown

    44420 22AUG88-2139 Utilities & Applications
    RE: WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM (Re: Msg 44337)
    From: USERDENIS To: ARTFLEXSER

    No, spitni does not work for Window Masteer.

  • pucc_unknown

    44778 5SEP88-1106 Utilities & Applications
    RE: WINDOW MASTER FIN. PROBLEM (Re: Msg 44303)
    From: HARBIE To: ARTFLEXSER

    i believe that it is the case , as they are FAMOUS for such things , it is a
    good idea until you realize that the original tends to crash in a way that
    makes the copy protection thing that even the original is in fat a backup and
    of course any amount of
    restoring from the backup itself is useless , i know from experience !