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new user hard drive

85987 1-MAR 22:37 Games & Graphics
new user hard drive
From: TAULBORG To: ALL

I am a new OS9 user and am running on a hard drive for the first time
under OS9 and I am having problems with a few progs!It seems that when
I have someone here that knows what they are doing I get most things
working but when I try topy progs to the hard drive on my own they
don’t seem to work.Since I can’t have someone hold my hand all the time
I could use some help from you guys here!I would like to put all my
OS9 stuff on my hard drive but so far I have only got stuff like
Rogue on by myself.I have KQ3 and liesure suit Larry on my hard drive
but that took someone sitting there telling me what to do!
Even though I have only a VERY BASIC knowledge of OS9 I would like to
put “Rescue on Fractalus” “Sub Battle” “Flight Sim II” and most
importantly”Multi-View” on my hard drive!I would also like to get
Color Computer Artist to work,it semms to be on there but won’t run!
If you can leave me a message with EXACT instructions on how to get
ANY of these or other OS9 progs to work on my hard drive wich uses
a COCO XT by BURK&BURK interface please help all you can becuase I
REALLY NEED the help!!!!(Actually I have the COCO XT-RTC interface)
One more thing,I need to know how to get rid of the directories that
I have messed up so that I can put the good progs in thier places so
that I don’t fill my hard drive with useless junk!!!!!!!
ANY help will help but please remember that I have just barely
started using OS9 and have a very limited knowledge of it.
Once I can get a few of these progs to work I will have a better
knowledge of how to get the rest of them to work!!

15 comments to new user hard drive

  • pucc_unknown

    85990 1-MAR 23:31 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 85987)
    From: COCOKIWI To: TAULBORG (NR)

    multivue is easy to put on H/D…the problem is that the “multi-vue” startup
    file is coded to point to /D0……most of the problems could have been cured
    by using the DEFAULT /DD rather than /D0……
    you just change the /D0 to /H0…….you can do that with a utility progam
    that allows one to change Bytes directly…
    look for the /D0 in the TEXT side of the display,I use a utility that was around

    for the old CoCo that works on the CoCo-2……Ezgen will work ok!
    I use a H/D myself!But use the DISTO system……I do use HyperIO though and
    have the os9 stuff!
    Dennis

  • pucc_unknown

    85998 2-MAR 22:18 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 85987)
    From: LLASHER To: TAULBORG (NR)

    there are files in the data base that helps with putting things onto hard
    drives. They have helped me in the past.

  • pucc_unknown

    86020 4-MAR 00:12 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 85987)
    From: THETAURUS To: TAULBORG (NR)

    >>(Actually I have the Coco XT-RTC interface)

    Good GOOD choice on that Burke and Burke :-)
    For the most part, putting OS9 programs from floppy to Hard Drive
    is simple. The only problem tends to be when programs have directories
    Hardcoded into them. I think this is a problem with at least
    SOME of those games. Also I think they require the vdgint
    descriptor/driver< ???> which might still be in your bootlist. Sorry if
    this is coming at you too fast starting out>, but I tend to have a hard time simplyfing explanations.
    While I couldn’t tell you exactly how to get them programs set up,
    since I am in the process of trying to do the same thing, I would
    advise you to make up a seperate bootfile for games since the VDGint
    Module takes up a good deal of memory, plus FTDD and some of the
    others which are specific to the some of the games. Hopefully someone
    can help you more than I on this, and since you reminded me of my old
    project, I’ll try and see what I can get myself while working a little
    on it.
    >Chris<

  • pucc_unknown

    86053 5-MAR 21:22 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 85987)
    From: RICKULAND To: TAULBORG (NR)

    Most Tandy games use vdgint- this is in whatever boot KQ3 uses
    so many games will run so long as you use the KQ3 hard drive boot. Flight
    Simulator has
    2 special modules, just like KQ3 does. These are more work- they have to be in
    boot.
    MultiVue is easiest to live with when it’s part of the main system.
    If windint is in os9boot (the extra w are optional), that system will run MVue
    from the hard drive if the MVue disk is simply dsaved to the hard drive. Forget
    Tandy’s install- if windint replaces grfint MultiVue is ‘installed’- it will
    run from any chd/chx- with exception of env.sys, which has to be
    in /dd/sys (this is probably /h0/sys anyway).
    -ricku

  • pucc_unknown

    86103 8-MAR 00:32 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 86053)
    From: TAULBORG To: RICKULAND

    After cleaning the contacts on my whole computer it seems that my os9 boot
    or it’s backup would work!It seems to die about halfway through the boot
    process and gives me a 32 column green screen with os9 boot failed.
    Hyper I/O works fine on the hard drive so my os9 stuff should still be there
    so if someone could help me make a new boot for my hard drive with the
    stuff that is on the old boot disks it would help a lot!!!!!
    It seems that for some reason the boot or starup file is messed up!!

  • pucc_unknown

    86069 6-MAR 18:44 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 85990)
    From: DSRTFOX To: COCOKIWI

    Dennis, how does Hyper I/O work with the Disto? I have a Disto SCII and SCSI
    HD system, but use the 512 byte sector format from Northern Xposure on the
    drive. I doubt Hyper I/O will work with that…

  • pucc_unknown

    86076 6-MAR 21:10 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 86020)
    From: DBREEDING To: THETAURUS

    > SOME of those games. Also I think they require the vdgint
    > descriptor/driver< ???> which might still be in your bootlist.
    > since I am in the process of trying to do the same thing, I would
    > advise you to make up a seperate bootfile for games since the VDGint
    > Module takes up a good deal of memory, plus FTDD and some of the
    > others which are specific to the some of the games.

    The only need for having a separate bootdisk is if your bootfile is so
    big that you run out of system memory. I have both WindInt and VDGInt
    in my bootfile, as well as FTDD, etc, and apparently both ‘Int’s can coexist.
    In addition, I use the ftdd/nil, etc stuff from “vrn.ar”, which replace
    the fs2, KQ3 drivers & descriptors.

    — David Breeding –

    *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
    ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^

  • pucc_unknown

    86078 6-MAR 22:20 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 86069)
    From: COCOKIWI To: DSRTFOX (NR)

    I don,t know about that,did,nt B&B come out with a 512 byte driver?
    Dennis

  • pucc_unknown

    86100 7-MAR 23:07 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 86078)
    From: THETAURUS To: COCOKIWI (NR)

    Yeah they did come out with their own driver dennis. I haven’t heard much
    about it, but have seen it mentioned.
    >Chris<

  • pucc_unknown

    86105 8-MAR 01:07 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 86103)
    From: RICKULAND To: TAULBORG (NR)

    Ouch! You may have injured your old os9 installing hio. Try this-
    turn on everything except the hard drive and boot. About 1/2 the boot
    comes from the hard drive, if it’s on. If it’s not, OS9 will try to
    boot straight off a floppy (most folks don’t know they are using
    the alternate method!) With luck, your boot floppy has enuf to get going.
    If no boot with drive off, check for CMDS/shell and CMDS/grfdrv on the floppy.
    Hopefully you can get os9 going from floppy, then turn on the hard drive
    and look around for more clues. Waiting for status check………..
    -good luck -ricku

  • pucc_unknown

    86132 9-MAR 19:37 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 86105)
    From: TAULBORG To: RICKULAND (NR)

    I installed hyper io before putting os9 back on my harddrive.I had os9
    on there before but something went on with it so I decided to put
    hyper io back on it instead of just os9!After putting hyper io on I
    decided to see if os9 could do anything with the hard drive and since
    hpio formats the hard drive with an os9 format os9 read the hard drive
    right away.Now my problem is getting a new os9 boot disk put together
    so that I can use the os9 stuff on my hard drive because the boot that
    I did have DIED for some reason.By the way I was never able to get any
    part of the boot to work off the hard drive so the whole boot process
    was on floppy and for some reason it don’t work!!!! I am sure that once
    I can get a new boot disk put together with the drivers and stuff for
    the hard drive it will work fine!!I just can’t do it without step by
    step instructions and ALL the books I have assume that I know a lot
    about os9 and I DON’T.

  • pucc_unknown

    86238 14-MAR 01:21 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 86132)
    From: RICKULAND To: TAULBORG

    This is a real slow relpy, do to various things. Perhaps I can help you out
    after building a zillion BBXT boot’s it’s likely I have one here- or almost
    one, at worst. Drop me a line with in mail if you are still stuck.
    -ricku

  • pucc_unknown

    86311 16-MAR 23:46 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 86238)
    From: TAULBORG To: RICKULAND (NR)

    With help I have been able to get a simple boot going but I can’t seem
    to run king’s quest and leisure suit larry and I am haveing probs with
    supercomm!!! They all worked fine before and now with the new boot they
    don’t seem to work.I also can’t get the help message system to work.
    I have bought many coco’s along with thier software over the years and
    have ammassed a large pile of EVERYTHING almost.according to the local
    os9 people I have to put more stuff in my boot file but I have looked
    at evrything and most if not all of everything I need is there!
    I really don’t know what to do with all the files but they are there
    and I just can’t get them to work the way they are supposed to!!!!!
    I am haveing no problem with the RSDOS part of my hard drive but I
    really need a lot of help with the OS9 part.
    I need to learn how to download files and what to do with them.
    But before then i have to get supercomm to work again.
    I also need to know how to add stuff to my boot file so that I can
    get all this stuff to run off my hard drive!I would also like ANY info
    on the XT-Rom because it would be neat to turn my coco on and get OS9
    straight from the hard drive.I am really new at OS9 so please give
    detailed info if you can give me any info,any questions asked will be
    answered so help me if you can!!!!

  • pucc_unknown

    86314 17-MAR 00:24 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 86311)
    From: RANDYKWILSON To: TAULBORG (NR)

    SuperComm v2.2, and KQ3/LSL all have one thing in common. They all use
    virtual IRQs. There was a problem with the original issue OS-9 that affected
    VIRQs. The easiest way to fix it is to use the INIT module from Fight Sim 2,
    or just patch your existing init from 0F to 0C at offset 000C.
    Tis late here, I’ll give you more detailed info tomorrow, if someone doesn’t
    beat me to it.

    Randy

  • pucc_unknown

    86331 17-MAR 19:52 Games & Graphics
    RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 86311)
    From: DENNYWRIGHT To: TAULBORG

    You need to replace the clock module in your new boot file to correct the
    problem with supercomm. Matt had the same problem and figured it out. Contact
    him for the necessary modules for KQ3, LSL, FSII, and the new clock.