87125 3-MAY 02:03 Telecom (6809)
Windows
From: CHARLESAM To: RANDYKWILSON
Randy, can /w be created? Or does it just have to be in memory? I tried to
open /w with no success. Yet the same commands work fine on other windows.
Here is what I tried;
iniz /w;wcreate /w -s=02 00 00 80 24 00 09 09;shell i=/w&
The above doesn’t work, the window gets created but the shell doesn’t fork.
If I sub /w1, it works fine. Forgive me, I’m dumb about these things.
In the meantime, I’ll try running SC in /W1 from startup. Charlie
87127 3-MAY 02:38 Telecom (6809)
RE: Windows (Re: Msg 87125)
From: MITHELEN To: CHARLESAM
Why not just do a :
supercomm <>>>/w& in your startup file, I believe supercomm sets up its
own window parameters. /w is the “generic” window descriptor, and tells
the system to use the next available window.
–
Paul
P.S iniz’ing windows is an ugly thing to do…
87145 3-MAY 22:12 Telecom (6809)
RE: Windows (Re: Msg 87127)
From: CHARLESAM To: MITHELEN
Thanx Paul, that explains alot. Instead of assigning specific windows, I
just assign W and let the file use the next avail. window. Do I have to iniz.
those windows or just W?
Charlie
87146 3-MAY 22:31 Telecom (6809)
RE: Windows (Re: Msg 87145)
From: MITHELEN To: CHARLESAM
You really don’t need to iniz windows at all.
87152 4-MAY 00:34 Telecom (6809)
RE: Windows (Re: Msg 87146)
From: CHARLESAM To: MITHELEN
If you say so Paul. I’m just following the manual (Rainbow). I suppose
I’ll get it down sooner or later. The good news is I have my startup
configured to load SC, Dynastar, Presto Partner, along with term and one
text window. It even puts the PAGAN logo (altered a little) on the term
screen. Of course, with only 512k, I don’t have much memory left. But
then I’m going to the Fest so I’ll maybe fix that. I even have enuf
system memory to format a disk. I started late learning but I’m picking
up something new everyday. I might even be happy now for a week before
I try to alter things again. NO! A week is too long…maybe two days.
I didn’t know what you meant by ‘initializing all those windows’. Till
now I never had to deal with it. Willfo sent me his ‘make#’ utils for
creating windows several years ago when I started trying to get into
OS9. I couldn’t use that for loading SC and Dynastar. So now I can
make my own with a little trail and error. Thanx for the tipoff, you
must have gotten a little chuckle from that (along with everyone else
here). Thats not my first goofup and it certainly won’t be my last.
Someday I’ll tell the story of how I ruined a Coco3 removing the
gime chip….. Later Charlie
87154 4-MAY 00:47 Telecom (6809)
RE: Windows (Re: Msg 87152)
From: RANDYKWILSON To: CHARLESAM (NR)
Paul is absolutely correct. Do not iniz windows unless it’s absolutely
needed, such as for wcreate (I don;t use wcreate for this reason). In the
old Level 1 days, it was a good idea to iniz all devices to be used, due to
memory frag reasons. With Level 2, this reason is gone, and the “W” descriptor
makes inizing unwanted. “W” is not a window device. It is a psuedo device that
tells the system to find the next unused (un-inized) window device, and use
that. If all the windows are pre-inized, it will bomb out.
In the case of something like:
iniz /w
wcreate /w etc etc etc
shell i=/w&
The system will find an uninized window to use with the first line, which inizs
it. Then, for the second line, it will have to find another unused window. Can’t
use the first one… it’s now inized. Same thing for the third line. The system
seeks out a new window for the shell to use, which won’t be either of the first
two.
Confused yet (I shouldn’t answer realtime online after midnight
Randy
87161 4-MAY 22:09 Telecom (6809)
RE: Windows (Re: Msg 87154)
From: DSRTFOX To: CHARLESAM
Are you the one who tried to pry the entire socket off the motherboard?
87167 4-MAY 23:26 Telecom (6809)
RE: Windows (Re: Msg 87154)
From: CHARLESAM To: RANDYKWILSON
I understand what your saying okay. I was wondering why I was having such a
hard time doing just what you describe. But tell me, can you do it if you put
it all on one line separated by semi colons? I believe it can be done like
that. Not sure though, I’ll have to try it again. But yeah, it was driving
me crazy doing exactly what you described. Well, I don’t have to bump into
that wall anymore. Boy, am I getting an education. Again thanx, Charlie
87170 4-MAY 23:35 Telecom (6809)
RE: Windows (Re: Msg 87161)
From: CHARLESAM To: DSRTFOX (NR)
Yeah, thats me… but thats not something I tell often anymore… :-!
Charlie
Frank, I lost or misplaced volume #4 of 68Micro, how much for another?
Also, my subscription is due soon. If I see you at the Fest, I’ll renew
for another year. Great magazine. BTW, can you tell me if their (Glenside)
akfast at the Fest? I didn’t see mention of it in their
circular. I just got my Fest tickets today. I’m as excited as a kid at
Christmas and I’m 50….. Some people never grow up.
87234 8-MAY 20:53 Telecom (6809)
RE: Windows (Re: Msg 87170)
From: DSRTFOX To: CHARLESAM
When you renew at the fest I’ll let you have a replacement #4 for half price..
$2.00. There isn’t an organized breakfast at the fest, but the hotel has
aood restaurant and breakfast buffet!
87238 8-MAY 23:10 Telecom (6809)
RE: Windows (Re: Msg 87234)
From: CHARLESAM To: DSRTFOX
Thanx for the break on the mag#4. I’m glad we won’t have to go far for chow.
If I can’t get a cup of coffee first thing, I just ain’t human. As a matter
of record, I don’t travel without a coffee pot if I can help it. I’m really
looking forward to this, it will probably be my last chance at a Fest. See
you there Frank. Charlie