07/20/07: DECB under OS-9? by 6809er, | Category: OS-9 | 6 comments - (Comments are closed)

DECB under OS-9?

As most of you know, I’m not really into OS-9. (Yes, I did write a Bounce Ball Demo and Color Computer Artist under OS-9 for Tandy.)

Anyway, I was wondering if there was a DECB runtime system for OS-9. The idea would be to run DECB programs without any changes under OS-9. I’m talking about pure DECB programs without any pokes or ML calls.

If not, Maybe it’s times we write one for OS-9 or NitrOS-9. We could also expand the BASIC to use the MMUs to access all the memory for the program and data. (Remove the 32k limit of DECB.)

What do you think?

Steve (6809er) Bjork

6 comments to DECB under OS-9?

  • Briza

    As most of you know, I’m not really into OS-9. (Yes, I did write a Bounce Ball Demo and Color Computer Artist under OS-9 for Tandy.)

    Anyway, I was wondering if there was a DECB runtime system for OS-9. The idea would be to run DECB programs without any changes under OS-9. I’m talking about pure DECB programs without any pokes or ML calls.

    If not, Maybe it’s times we write one for OS-9 or NitrOS-9. We could also expand the BASIC to use the MMUs to access all the memory for the program and data. (Remove the 32k limit of DECB.)

    What do you think?

    Steve (6809er) Bjork

    Thats a great idea. I think the last program to do that was RUSTY marketed by Northern Exposure Technologies something like that. it was around 98% RSDOS compatible.

    laters

    Briza

  • mannequin

    Yeah, I seem to remember ads in the Rainbow about DECB under OS-9… I also remember my brother taunting me because if I bought OS-9. I’d have to learn a new variety of BASIC. Heh… I did, and liked it better. :)

    -M.

  • RetroRick

    Steve – I think that’s an excellent idea. :-D

    There’s enough headache going through OS-9 without fighting to get DECB programs working. I bet there’s a long list of people who don’t learn OS-9 for that very reason.

  • Emtwo

    Steve – I think that’s an excellent idea. :-D

    There’s enough headache going through OS-9 without fighting to get DECB programs working. I bet there’s a long list of people who don’t learn OS-9 for that very reason.

    These days I don’t think the reasons would be the same. I remember back when, the move to OS9 was scary because everything was different. You had to change drives, keep track of your commands directory, and with the early disks, you couldn’t always have access to everything at once.

    These days the DECB “no disk file structure to speak of” way of doing things is the odd-ball, not OS9.

  • RetroRick

    Well, AFAIK the documentation for OS-9 hasn’t improved at all over the past years, and the very flawed manuals were the reason that everyone in my now-defunct Color Computer club never learned OS-9. There were lots of commands to learn, a certain way of using to use each one, and there were always programs that wouldn’t run in OS-9 regardless of what commands you knew.

  • Emtwo

    Well, AFAIK the documentation for OS-9 hasn’t improved at all over the past years, and the very flawed manuals were the reason that everyone in my now-defunct Color Computer club never learned OS-9. There were lots of commands to learn, a certain way of using to use each one, and there were always programs that wouldn’t run in OS-9 regardless of what commands you knew.

    I wouldn’t say I actually learned it either, I just got used to it. Now I did learn Basic09, but to get to basic09, you had to first get over the hump of booting OS9 in the first place.

    When it comes right down to it, I think the reason most people were reluctant to move to OS9 was there were very few “applications” written for OS9. Oh, tons of “tools”. It was like I ordred a motercycle, and got delivered a box of nuts and bolts, with three typewritten pages of notes.


    Look at today, I have pocket pcs with more apps than OS9 has. My Dell x50v PPC has mobile word, mobile excel, mobel powerpoint, Pocket Internet Explorer, Opera Explorer, Audible book player, PDF viewer, autocad viewer, Palm ebook reader, uSoft reader, mobipocket reader, finance software, limited java support, msn messenger, pocket msn, pocket streets, terminal services client, windows media player. That doesn’t even mention the games.

    The pocket pc doesn’t provide more than 40k for software to run in. Theres no reason that OS9 can’t have that stuff, except for the more graphics intensive end. It certianly isn’t about available memory.

    Consider your typical DECB user. He/she has a database to keep track of his/her collection. They have music software, and can write music if they choose. They have a butload of games for when they get board. There were spreadsheets and word processors and finance software. Why move to OS9? That car had a great big motor in it, but there were no roads.

    Now at the time, I wasn’t much help, so I’m not throwing stones here. I ran a modified version of RiBBS for about 6-7 years, I wrote a multiplayer take over the universe BBS game called Dominion for RiBBS (idea stolen from some IBM BBS, but the code was 100% mine), I worked with the author of the Basic09 Disassembler (can’t remember his name tho) between version 1.0 and 1.2 (I think), learned a little ‘C”, wrote a “C” instrument front end called “Button Master” which I showed at Cocofest 2 or 3 (again I can’t remember). And that was it. No killer apps from me, even tho I wanted them.