12/17/08: Synther 7 cas file? by egr, | Category: Applications | 14 comments - (Comments are closed)

Synther 7 cas file?

Howdy!
I notice there’s mention of Synther 77 already in the forum but I’m trying to find a cas file of Synther 7. I’ve only been able to locate a Dragon version thus far.

Any help? Or recommendations… I only have a stock (?) Coco 2 that I would like to load cas files from my PC soundcard, no disks etc. Any sound program that would give me more control than BASIC offers would be great.

Thanks in advance.

14 comments to Synther 7 cas file?

  • RobertGault

    Try the synther.cas file here
    [url]ftp://www.rtsi.com/RSDOS/incoming/netrunnrs_uploads/cas[/url]
    Maybe that’s what you want.

  • DarrenA

    Try the synther.cas file here
    [url]ftp://www.rtsi.com/RSDOS/incoming/netrunnrs_uploads/cas[/url]
    Maybe that’s what you want.

    That’s the same DRAGON version that is available elsewhere. Was a CoCo version of this program ever released?

    This may work on a CoCo if the auto-start trickery can be patched out of the CAS file. There could be keyboard matrix issues as well.

  • egr

    That’s where I got the version I’ve been trying to use, thanks tho.

    According to this article Synther 7 was available for Coco at some point:

    http://www.atarimagazines.com/creative/v9n12/97_Graphics_and_music_for_th.php

    And I’ve come across random forum posts of people recalling using it on their machines. That’s about it however.

    A helpful poster on the Dragon Archive site mentioned patching the auto-start and the keyboard problems. Unfortunately that’s way out of my league at the moment. Maybe somebody’s looking for a project?

  • DarrenA

    A helpful poster on the Dragon Archive site mentioned patching the auto-start and the keyboard problems. Unfortunately that’s way out of my league at the moment. Maybe somebody’s looking for a project?

    Did he provide any details that could be helpful in creating such a patch?

  • egr

    From archive.worldofdragon.org———————————————————-

    Re: Synther for Coco?
    by sixxie on Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:13 pm

    I wrote this for someone else a while back: http://www.6809.org.uk/tmp/da/tapehack.txt – how easy it is kinda depends on how much you like poking around in hex dumps and disassemblies…

    Most of why Synther-7 doesn’t load will be due to the autorun method I suspect, though it might make lots of ROM calls that would need patching. And if it polls the keyboard, the different matrix would need accounting for.sixxie

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    Check the tapehack.txt to get a description of the method they’ve used.[b:a7dad284ec][/b:a7dad284ec][color=blue:a7dad284ec][/color:a7dad284ec]

  • egr

    After a lot more searching through the forums I found this link to a batch of cas files that was posted earlier this year:

    http://rapidshare.com/files/135153827/coco_tapes.zip.html

    Among many other things it has MUSIC.CAS and SYNTHER.CAS — I would really appreciate it if anyone could attempt to load these and verify that they SHOULD work if I have my setup correct (I have a stock Coco 2, btw).

    Thanks (and another thanks to the original poster)!!

  • DarrenA

    The MUSIC and SYNTHER CAS files in that archive are both for the DRAGON. MUSIC is a BASIC program and could probably be used on the CoCo by simply re-tokenizing it. I don’t recall off hand what utilities are available for doing this.

  • egr

    Dang. I thought that seemed to easy… I’ll start looking for retokenization, then. Thanks!

  • gmajor

    You can find Synther 7 for the coco on a virtual disk on RTSI at:
    ftp://www.rtsi.com/RSDOS/incoming/netrunnrs_uploads/disks/D06.dsk

    I did a cassette version out of it that you can download at:
    http://goyim.dyndns.org:8080/coco/synther7.cas

    I used to play it a lot during my coco days.

    Enjoy!

    Guillaume

  • egr

    You can find Synther 7 for the coco on a virtual disk on RTSI at:
    ftp://www.rtsi.com/RSDOS/incoming/netrunnrs_uploads/disks/D06.dsk

    I did a cassette version out of it that you can download at:
    http://goyim.dyndns.org:8080/coco/synther7.cas

    I used to play it a lot during my coco days.

    Enjoy!

    Guillaume

    Thank you so much!
    I’m embarrassed to say I still was unable to get this working last night but I think the problem may be with the sound level I’m sending to the machine (I can play audio thru fine but I have to turn the TV all the way up to really hear it). I’m determined to get this going and I’ll have all Sunday to work on it.
    Thanks again!

    FYI: I’m using CLOADM, play the wav-converted file from the PC, the “S” appears in the uppler left (not inverted), and then nothing. The machine is locked up until I hit reset. “Audio on” tells me the cable is wired correctly but the sound level seems to be very low. There’s no indication that the machine is recieving data at all…

  • dentman42

    Make sure both Master and WAV volume levels are turned up on the PC.

  • egr

    Make sure both Master and WAV volume levels are turned up on the PC.

    I shall double check that.

  • dentman42

    Another trick you can try is burn the .wav to a CD (as audio) and feed the CoCo from the CD player (I saw this trick used at an Atari swap meet for all of the old 2600 SuperCharger games – they had them all on 1 CD. I’ve been tempted to do this for all the .CAS files floating around.)

    Your sound (especially if onboard) may put out too low a signal for the CoCo to detect (the CoCo was designed to use the earphone out from the tape recorder), but a CD player’s headphone out should be more like the cassette deck’s earphone out.

  • egr

    Thanks for all your help, guys. I finally got it sorted out. Sixxie from the Dragon archive sent me a wav that worked. Turns out I have some kind of encoding issue on my PC that was making (or playing) the wav files at a much lower frequency so that they wouldn’t load. Weird…