Marty;

I got a sony 1302 monitor the other day and seem to have a problem with it.
when I turn on the system the screen will come up fine then after it warms
about a minute there is a snap and I get 2 yellow line across the top of the
screen
athis the monitor works fine. would you have a sujestion (sp) as to what it may
be?
Don

Can anyone answer this question?

From: IN%”78-5750@terranet.bluethun.quake.com” 2-DEC-1994 15:29:54.85
To: IN%”gregl@delphi.com”
Subj: cc3io.dr patches…

Hello Greg,
Marty pointed me in your Direction, as He did not know the Internet
address of Kevin Ddarling…
I’m trying to patch cc3io.dr from Version 2.00.01 of Level II OS-9 as so
to properly recieve OS-9 Escape sequences over the phone-line properly…
My first attempts at patching it with Information in Rainbow (2/88 I
believe), and Confirmed by Mike Guzzi (ApBBS Pensylvania 1-717-586-2771) was
interactively (not using a file and the -s option of modpatch) screwed up cc3io
royally… Then I tried the -s option and the file method, most bytes this time
around gave me a “byte does not match” warning, but other than that seems to
function MOSTLY… I was wondering if there was a specific patch needed or not
for this version of CC3io.dr

Edition: $10
Mod CRC: $F737C2

Any help is appreciated…

Also speaking of Mods…. I heard there was a 1 byte mod for os9p1 that seemed
to cut down on the overhead considerably enough that 9600bps was reliable…
I have the Eddie Kuns Edition 9 Clock Modules < Bigger than Level II's
Edition 9 clock modules>, SACIA, VRN, and NIL added to increase speed, but only
wound up with at best a near 100% ability of ANSI at 4800bps using Supercomm
2.2.

Thanks in advance…

-Later!
-SS-
FidoNet Address: William Barnes@1:239/1100
InterNet Address: 78-5750@bluethun.quake.com

Well, I haven’t had this much fun in years. Anybody else
want to play? The givens- a 1 meg 6809 and disto drive. Needed a
new boot badly. trot out all the old favorites…..
Results- after remembering the attr thing, a deblob (just
repositioned) to get the floppies writing, looks ok, except std*
won’t merge to /w, and I cannot install term_win. Term_vdg works
fine, extra windows look ok, MVue even starts (without fonts).
Ezgen term_win in – boot failed way back in the OS9 BOOT
stage. Tried 3 windints, 2 scf, and serveral term,w,etc descripts
So I’m quite stuck. Anybody?

-ricku

Rick Ulland CoNect
rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St.
“Operating System Nine”- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214

I have tried to get your new clock for the Disto 4n1 going but I seem to have
a problem – I get a boot fail every time I try to boot with it. I can remove
it and boot just fine. I am using a 63c09 ,4n1 , scsi drive, and do most of my
boot from the harddrive. all I have on the boot disk is OS9BOOT. I have moved
modules and some other stuff but still get a boot fail. Can you help.
Don

Well a bit late but Happy 60th. Hope that there are lots more highway
miles in the old body.
Thanks for the RBF fixes, but dare I use them at Version 1? . iI’ve had
to go back to V.28 on the BBS with the new 130 meg drive, didn’t want to
think about an allocation map that big at 1 sector per. Almost the first thing
I did of course was to delete a file I didn’t mean to.
So now we may be ok. I’ll pass them on to Gene K. see how rbf30B( ? i thin
k)
works on his Powerboost system. Talk to you again soon.
Mmerv
Damn old keyboard…..

Ofnohoc has been playing with infoexpress, installing it
under MultiVue. To hide the subdirs, the AIF calls an
intermediate procedure file to do the cd. Ix needs a patch under
shell+ anyway, to allocate less memory at startup- this was done.

It was next to impossible to get ix started from a procedure
file! Starting with the hopelessly optimistic ‘ix’, the line that
finally killed the last bug is (drum roll….)

ex shell ix #1 <>>>/1

Prevous failures ranged from fatal error straight away,
through a few 207′s and ram locks, finally stdin tied to /h0, one
last 207 (cumon, one page?), and here we are:-) Surely this is
wrong?

-ricku

Rick Ulland CoNect
rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St.
“Operating System Nine”- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214

I finally solved my hardware problems, and am now attempting to install
everything I can to squeeze every little bit of speed out of this coco 3.
I found that after installing the B&B Powerboost Native patches on my
boot disk, that the system crashes when I try to format my RamDisk (I
use /r0 & rammer patched to 384k). Is there a chance that this somehow
conflicts with the 2 meg upgrade??? It works without the Native patches
and works with the Powerboost Tuneup patches. Any guesses? Is there
anyone else running a system like this:
2 meg Coco 3 with HC63B09E, MPI, Ken-Ton SCSI HD, Disto SCII in no-halt
mode, Speech pak and a Ken-Ton Dual RS232 pak? If you are, let me know
what patches & upgrades are working for you.

Can anyone suggest how I can get B&B’s PowerBoost to patch my SCII
drivers, since I use the alternately addressed version? PB tuneup
skips the SCII drivers and I cannot use the ones addressed at $FF74-
$FF77 because of a conflict with the Ken-Ton SCSI pak.
if I make a boot with the regular drivers, run tuneup and
then use ded to patch the 10 or 12 bytes that are different so CC3disk
addresses $FF58-5F? Has anyone else discovered thsi problem?
thanks…

Hi all, I’ve now uploaded a pair of files, both fix the same problem, one for
std 6809 systems, and one for Nitros9 systems. The problem was that if you
were using more than 1 sector pere cluster opon your your disks, a delete
did not clear all the allocation bits and the disk would slowly fill up
with allocated, but otherwise unattached sectors. These fix that. Then
UnDel, by Bob Santy, fails on a multisector cluster disk. I’ve got it
fixed for multisector clusters, but managed to break it for single cluster
disks. So that will be a day or two comeing yet. Sorry. Its been a long
day this week.
Cheers all, Gene

Is it still possible to get the Disto host adapters for CoCo’s?
I’ve had a Quantum 105LPS laying around for some time now, and figure
it might be nice to actually be able to use it. I’d need a disto
board, because I have a fried slot in my multi-pak, so it needs to go
in with the disk controller.

Thanx in advance,
Dave

Marty;

I am looking at getting a new printer. What I would like to get is a
LASER printer Will this work with a COCO3 and the parallel port on a
disto 4n1 board. I thought I remembered you listing a pinout for it or
at least some instruction on how to hook one up in the ’68 Micro
a while back. could you help me with this ? Can this connection be
made thru the use of just a parrallel cable?

Don

Hi; in a earlier message you and Boisey mentioned that error 202 was caused
by not having the drive descripters inized. You mentioned a patch for the
disto drivers – I looked for that patch here in the data base and was not
ablr to find it. Could you email me that patch? I would be most thankful.
Don

It seems that this is the first, am I the only one having a problem?
I installed the SCF and made my new merged shell module and generally it
seems to work ok. I installed it to use with my Nitro boot, and all I
get is a technicolor screen. We’ll see how it goes when the 1.20 update
arrives. But one utility fstat no longer seems to work on two different
systems. All i get is a read error, on the hard disk or floppy.
I installed the scf and shell on my Ribbs BBS system, not Nirtro, and
ribbs won’t load or run. Its ok with the new scf and my shell2.1. Seems
to me I had another problem, but can’t find that note.
Perhaps you can pass this onto Bill, or make a suggestion?
Merv

You mentioned in a letter about a patch for cc3disk, so it will clear it’s
interupt when it is done. I assume you are talking about the super controller
2 no halt drivers. that is exactly what I have been looking for. Could you tell
me exactly what the name of the file is, and what topic it’s under.
also i’m looking for a patch to the kernal patch by bruce istead. it’s
supposed to recognize up to two meg, but will only recognize one meg.
I had to use the original kernal, and I patched the old mega command.
any help would be appreciated.

Brian Smith (SMITHBA)

I have a weird question, I know I should ask Chris burke this but…. Since
he does not write scsisys and this also applies to that author here is my
question
I found a great deal on a Maxtor 290MB 12ms SCSI HD. and a 8 bit scsi
card. I was going to buy it for my xt but…. I think Cecilia (My coco 3)
would make better use of it. I was going to install it externally so it
could plug into the card via the 25pin scsi external connector. First of all
does Scsisys allow a user to set the port address easily along with the slot
selection? B&B needs BOTH! and also… would the thing work The card I am
thinking of ordering uas a scsi driver you load from Disk. I deliberatly
said “NO” to the HD only version as it only allowd two HD devices and did
not even alllow Tape or CD-rom. (When I buy cards, I use device drivers,
just like on my Coco, I eat TPA (cp/m speak) but then upgrading is easier.
Does Scsi sys 1.0 have a certain register demand? Does it nessarly need
a certain brand of Scsi chip? or if I had that info would the author prepare
me a version for testing? If it does not… I have a hungry Xt waiting…
but The case looks like it matches the coco 3 Much better. I was going to
lay out the Scsi HD to use 30 Meg partitions on the IBM. Give the old St-225
(20 MEG! Geez! Cecilia only fills hers half way full! and it is the same
size but newer Kalok 320!)
Sorry this is so long but I really think that knowing this info could
give us with the B&B system a second chance to go SCSI. I want to use SCSI
as the MFM hardware is not easily found new and I do not want to have to
worry if the HD croaks and I got an old outdated interface that has no
support. I think Chris Burke did mention that if the card selected does not
use IRQ’s it may work. I do not know if it does or not but My HD on my XT
does have an IRQ address and it works fine on my Coco 3.
Michele Marie Dalene

I need some help. I’ve trashed all my floppy boot disk’s awhile ago, and I am
trying to start from scratch w/ the orginal level 2 disks. The problem I’m
having is that I can use config to create a new disk w/ the double sided
decriptors, but when I try to create a double sided disk to boot from, I keep
getting
the treaded BOOT FAILED. I have tried using os9gen and cobbler to no avail.
Can anyone give some suggestions?
Thanx.

David;

I can’t resist making a comment regarding the “50″ varieties of COCO-OS9
L2 right now. While there may be a valid argument that each of us has
“customized” the system such that it now does “what we want it to do”, I
would also argue that the “customizations” were brought about in nearly
every case because we wanted it to do something that the MicroWare’s
original vision discounted as “not important enough to waste a variable
on”. And please Boisy, don’t take offense as much of this thinking
probably pre-dates your involvement.

I refer you to such things as the hard-coding of many things that we had
to dig into and find later (or sooner in many cases) because they really
were important enough to “waste a variable” on. The original release
cc3disk comes to mind for starters. All the (relatively simple) patches
required to make the C compiler actually run were another. Same comment
applies to the Pascal too.

Then comes Multiview, DeskMate I & II, DynaCalc, Profile. All of these,
WITHOUT EXCEPTION needed massageing in one form or another. I won’t
belabor the point on DM I or II, nor send it flowers in memory of its early
demise. Multiview of course has had its main module “gshell” redone
several times along with grfdrv. DynaCalc yet needs some way to really
control how it treats the printer instead of all these patches to get rid
of the spurious form feed. It really wasn’t spurious if the last job left
it sitting in mid page, but *nobody* thought of that. The real cure was to
have the printer ignore the darn thing IF it was allready sitting at
pagetop. Not many printers are that smart tho. A one byte var could have
taken care of that in DCalc.

Profile as I recall needed something done too, but I don’t at the moment
recall what it was, I did it so many years back. And yes, I still use it
on a semi-stock L2 system at the station.

The C & Pascal compilers, DynaCalc and Profile were all originally L1 and
they required patches NOT to make them run on level 2, but to make them run
on the average system which didn’t quite match the bare minimum system
used as a hardware model. Hard-codeing things like the devicename was/is
pretty inexcusable. I hear somebody saying “but we didn’t have /dd then”,
which is pure hog-wash! The idea was just as valid on a level one system.
WE just hadn’t thought of it YET.

(Pulling out soapbox)
The last point I’d like to make refers to the other comments in this
thread regarding gfx drivers.. If the machine can support the graphics
that apparently the MM/1 can, then the graphics drivers ARE PART AND
PARCEL of the op-sys AS SHIPPED! The fact that you would have to raise the
price of the package by some nominal sum (I saw $50 mentioned) has
absolutely nothing to do with it in terms of “a marketing decision”
because *then* you are shipping a system capable of running the application
regardless of what that application might be. The application will then
be written to “your” standard. And thats worth far more in the long run
than any $50 you might “save” in the short term. Later “for fee” upgrades
then will build on that standard as they will be forced to remain
“compatible” unless the distribution version is so buggy it really does
need thrown out . . . Nobody enjoys re-inventing the wheel unless the
first model was square or ?

It also has the effect of setting a short-term “standard” way of doing
things thereby enhancing right up front, the “compatiblility” issue we now
have in the L2 arena because so many of us have gone on to the Hitachi CPU
in the native mode. The PB folks have the ability to “run what they
brung” while the slightly faster Nitros9 group had to wait for a patched
“Home Publisher”. Not many of us chewed any fingernails waiting for it
but now we have it again. (And its *still* painfully slow)

The point is that if we would have had a Multiview that actually worked
shipped WITH the OS-9 distribution, I think the playing field between us
and the Intel crowd would have been much closer to level. The folks in
Westchester might have turned up the heat a bit faster too. (Commie
Amiga’s) We’ve also wasted entirely too much time on the BLOB. This has to
be a hardware thing, probably in the GIME. That it should never have seen
light outside outside the back door of 1 Tandy Center is a given! I have
personally written letters to the people whom I thought could answer
questions like “How much for another run of 5000″ and “are the databases
to define it available so the bugs can be fixed?”. Nobody took the time
or the postage to reply. Had my letters been answered, you can bet yours
that I would have been on here asking for donations to help offset the
“OTE” costs involved. Obviously I haven’t.

So I wasted a page on your printer. But thats how it seems to me.

Cheers – Gene

Help !!!

Somebody how dose one change the base address of the smartwatch to
say FF70 , or were can I get a ST MK48T02-20 Clock chip I’ve tryed
the mk48Z02b it don’t work.
BILL32H

I want to change my disk controller so its no longer in slot 4. Im running
the sardis controller (sdisk 3) i think Sdisk3 has the slot number in it
but are there any other system modules that change the multipak slot to 4??
all my other devices are fully decoded and do not use the SCS line.

Mike

Marty;
I have been experiencing some troble with my keyboard. It appears that so
sometimes when I first turn on my machine that the right arrow key will
not work for a while and also I am not able to do a shift-cntrl/break
function until the machine has been on for awhile then everything appears
to work fine. Could this be caused by a weak PIA (IC5) chip? or is it
a lead to something else.
Don

Hello

I would like to know who is handling SCSISYS by Matthew Thompson.
about a year ago or so I sent my $22 dollars in to register my copy.
and have recieved a couple of updates through delphi after being a pest.
but have never recieved any thing official ie documention and disks in the
mail saying that I had the official registered version.

My user name on delphi was JIMBM but I had to cancel my delphi account
during the first 5 month of 94. I have opened a new acount under
JBMANNING which may be part of the problem.

ident on my version shows

Header for: SCSISYS
Module size: $05F8 #1528
Module CRC: $AC2F3E (Good)
Hdr parity: $26
Exec. off: $0016 #22
Data Size: $028F #655
Edition: $00 #0
Ty/La At/Rv: $E1 $81
Dev Dvr mod, 6809 obj, re-en, R/O

is this up to date? and how can I get full documentaion?

one more thing accelarated handshaking works with my drive (st277n)
but I can’t get cacheing to work no matter which order I arrange
modules. after I enable caching my doing a
dmode /h0 dns=80 and
type dir /h0 I get weird characters on the screen.
the docs I have say the cache uses $C000 to $DFFF in the
system map. when I do an dirm this is the same as block 1, right?
or am I mistaken? can I enable cacheing after I boot?

after the last boot I tried dirm shows

Bk Ofst Size Ty At Link Module Name
— —- —- — — —- ———–
-3F D06 12A C1 81 0 REL
3F E30 1D0 C1 81 1 Boot
3F 1000 ED9 C0 88 0 OS9p1
- 1 1300 CA4 C0 82 1 OS9p2
1 1FA4 34 C0 81 1 Init
1 1FD8 140 C1 81 1 OS9p3
2 118 20 F1 81 1 Nil
2 138 1FB E1 81 1 VRN
2 333 95 E1 81 0 Parallel
2 3C8 3E F1 81 0 P
2 406 219 D1 81 0 PipeMan
2 61F 28 E1 81 0 Piper
2 647 26 F1 81 0 Pipe
2 66D 24D C1 83 1 Clock
2 8BA 5B6 E1 81 1 AciaDrv
2 E70 4B F1 81 1 T2
2 EBB 9F3 C1 81 1 IOMan
2 18AE 1D4B C1 81 1 WindInt
3 15F9 46 F1 81 4 TERM
3 163F 43 F1 81 0 W
3 1682 44 F1 81 3 W1
3 16C6 44 F1 81 0 W2
3 170A 44 F1 81 0 W3
3 174E 44 F1 81 0 W4
3 1792 43 F1 81 3 W5
3 17D5 44 F1 81 0 W6
3 1819 44 F1 81 0 W7
3 185D 44 F1 81 0 W8
3 18A1 44 F1 81 0 W9
3 18E5 45 F1 81 0 W10
3 192A 45 F1 81 0 W11
3 196F 45 F1 81 0 W12
3 19B4 45 F1 81 0 W13
3 19F9 45 F1 81 0 W14
3 1A3E 45 F1 81 0 W15
3 1A83 12CB D1 81 6 RBF
4 D4E 4EA E1 82 2 CC3Disk
4 1238 30 F1 81 1 D0
4 1268 30 F1 81 1 D1
4 1298 6DA D1 82 C SCF
4 1972 C64 E1 81 A CC3IO
3F 5D6 5F8 E1 81 4B SCSISYS
3F BCE 31 F1 89 0 H0
3F BFF 31 F1 89 4B DD
- 6 0 1FBB C1 81 1 GrfDrv
- A 0 1A7 11 81 1 DirM
- 9 0 18B3 11 82 4 Shell
9 18B3 24 11 81 0 Load
9 18D7 22 11 81 0 Echo
9 18F9 27 11 81 0 Prompt
9 1920 68 11 81 0 Merge
9 1988 4F 11 81 0 List
9 19D7 22 11 81 0 Makdir
9 19F9 A5 11 81 0 Del
9 1A9E 84 11 81 0 Display
9 1B22 7A 11 81 0 Iniz
9 1B9C 27 11 81 0 cls
9 1BC3 15C 11 81 0 Rename
-10 0 2156 11 81 1 mcron
-13 0 591D 11 81 1 scred

Thanks for your time

Jim Manning

Delphi JBMANNING
internet jbmannin@Endor.es.sim.com

Gene Krenciglowa tried out RBF32 on his Powerboost 2.03 and it won’t boot
with your RBF. I’ll get his message onto floppy and see if I can get it to
you in mail.
I used to do that, no problem, but the last couple of times when the
CR
at the end of the line is sent, Delphi stops accepting the message. We’ll see
what happens tomorrow afternoon.
I booted up with one of my old Nitro disks, and the Nitro RBF is a version
of RBF30. Maybe you missed it in version 1.15. But I was able to Undel a
file, I just forgot until I tried it. Now I don’t know which RBF to use, I’m
loyal to my hacker pals, .
Look for further, Sun night.
Merv

With all that information I am now using ‘myram’. Now to update my
various other boot disks. Sure is going to be strange losing my old pal
‘Rammer’. It goes back to my starting with Lev 2, one of the few unmodified
things over all those years. It is nice being able to change the R0 to do
a large unarc and then pop back to the standard 130K. Thanks for the
Ramdisk and extra help updating my knowledge.
Cheers
Merv

Got RBF32.mn created just fine. I have tested LHA and Undel, both are ok.
Maybe you should just bundle the docs from rbf31_2_32, with the new .ipc
and have that available here. We must all have the original RBF so I think
anks for the extra work creating the new .ipc.
Cheerio
Merv

Hello everyone; It appears I have a problem thats bit me on a couple of
occassions. I’ve made up an .ipc file to patch what I thought was the
version of RBF.mn that everyone whose system has had the Nitros-9 touch
should have been using.

Yes, and no. I’m finding that 1.115/1.116 Nitros9 seems to be different for
each user. If it had been only the crc that was different, I could possibly
say that “Well, I changed the at/rv & ty/lg in mine so its properly
identified as native mode, 6309 code by “vfy”. I could. But then what do I
do when the 1.15 someone else has is nearly $B0 bytes longer than mine?

Sooo, the next upload of the .ipc to make RBF.mn edition #32 will be based
on the original edition #28 from my distribution disk. As will any other
updates of system modules that I manage to do. Maybe this will ease the
confusion factor involved in trying to track upgrades. Since I’m Nitro’d
here, that means I’ll be crossing the border that divides nitros-9 from
os-9. At this point, the hassle factor has me in an I don’t care mode.
I’m sorry if that offends either Chris or Wes & Co. Each of us is in it far
more for the love of the system than for any prospects of making any money
on it anyway, plus the copyrights are MicroWares, not Burke & Burke, Gales
Force Enterprises, or mine.

There should be a side benefit too, pboost users should be able to use it
too.

Cheers all, Gene

I’ll d/l it and give it a try on my system. If it’s going to crash, it
will because my computer is real skitzoid! Intermittant problems that
occur for no apparent reason, but seem to pop up when using a RAMdisk.
If it passes here, you have a winner…

Just thought I would pass along the following from Fidonet:

Message No. 106 was left on 06-08-94 13:57:57
To……. : Brian O’Hagan
From….. : Colin Mckay
Subject.. : Re: NitrOS9
Message Conference #37 “CoCo OS9 (National Conference)”

> So how does one contact Bill and Curtis in order to purchase Nitros9?

Bill and/or Curtis should be making an announcement here some time this
week regarding the status of NitrOS-9.

Summed up briefly, v1.20 is scheduled for release around mid-July, and you
should wait until then before purchase, as the price has been lowered.

If you need further information, you can contact me at (613)736-0329.

Those who already own NitrOS-9 should also wait for the announcement.

TTYL. Colin.

Colin McKay | Abandon every hope, ye who enter here.
Northern Xposure | Dante (1265-1321) ‘Inferno’, Canto iii
cmckay@northx.isis.org | ( Inscription over the gate to Hell )

— Maximus-CBCS v1.02
* Origin: Micro80 Computer Club of Ottawa BBS (1:163/306)

Message No. 100 was left on 06-07-94 20:10:35
To……. : Brian O’Hagan
From….. : Curtis Boyle
Subject.. : Re: NitrOS9
Message Conference #37 “CoCo OS9 (National Conference)”

You can contact either one of us here on FidoNet, or you can write to us at:

Curtis Boyle or Bill Nobel
Mercury Graphics Corporation
1438 Fletcher Road
Saskatoon, SK
Canada
S7M 5T2

Maybe put a RE: NitrOS9 on the address as well so Bill or I can tell if it
is regular work business or NitrOS9 related (our work is letting us use their
address for correspondence, since one of us is bound to be their every
weekday. Prevents letters from getting locked up for a couple of weeks if one
of us is on vacation).
For dire emergencies, you can call us (by name) at work too, but don’t do
it too often, as our work doesn’t want to pay us for doing support for a
product that they have nothing to do with (except for printing our manuals at
a good price). The number there is (306)-384-8000.
In the evenings, you can call me (306)-384-4722 or Bill (306)-978-0834 at
home.
We will have some distributors soon for the new Version 1.20 release, as
well as our new upgrade/purchase policy, hopefully by the end of June, work
schedules permitting. We were pretty busy after getting back from the Fest,
and finally had time to print some manuals (V1.15/16) for backorders this
afternoon, so we haven’t had too much time to do much with NitrOS9. We should
get the manuals mailed out to individuals waiting for them by the end of the
week, and then start doing some bug-hunting/last minute updates & the new
manual after that. We will keep you posted as to our progress on this echo. If
anyone with Delphi/Internet/Compu$erve access can pass this info along, please
do…I don’t have access to most of it anymore.

— Opus-CBCS 1.73a
* Origin: The North Village OPUS, 14.4, OS/2, (306)384-0836 (1:140/26.0)

Has there been any break-through on getting the new reduced size VDGINT module
to work with the 2meg upgrade? I know Alan had redone it and it was still in
beta testing. Just wondering if any conculusion made on it.
Don

Hi!

I have been looking for a modules to allow a 5.25″ disk to be formatted
for use on the IBM. I have looked throughly through the System Modules
database, with no success.

If anyone has one, could you email me a copy?

Thanks much,
Scott

I’m in the middle of doing a fresh ramdisk for the os-9′ers, based VERY
loosely on the devpack version but capable of useing ram up to the amount
in the machine even if its a 2 megger!
I started on this because the compiler chokes if /r0 isn’t iniz’ed first,
thinking that was a bug. Well it is and it isn’t. OS-9 is doing that to
us as it does its own “iniz” on the module if it hasn’t been already,
then allows the write of a file to the ramdisk without reporting any
errors. Unforch, if it self initialized it, it also de-inits it at the
end of the write! So the file is lost, and c.pass1 (ansifront) can’t
find the output from c.prep. I want to stop that, effectivly making the
ramdisk refuse to deinit if the directory isn’t empty. I’m torn between
using the regular error paths to report it, or just outputting the
phrase “the root dir isn’t empty” on stderr. If I use an error number,
then the compiler and other progs will probably choke on it anyway when
in fact they could keep on truckin! So I need some input, what do tou
all (you) want it to do. The choices are to ignore it without errors, and
let you folks learn to delete all files before deiniting, haveing an
error mesage pop up at odd times, or returning a process killing error.
What’ll it be folks?
Cheers all, Gene

Has anyone had any problems with the R0_720K ramdisk found here in the database
running a 2-meg? Ever since I upgraded I get an error 241-Sector Error when I
use diskcopy to copy to it. I also have a 6309 and Powerboost.
BTW, the Fest was a GAS!

John Ruppel

Have received the New Drivers Upgrade disk today! Thanks!

Got one heck of a supprise from Canada Customes, since the sender (I assume it
was You, decleared the contend of the package to be $ 100.00 worth) So I had
to pay $ 14.95 Goods and Services Tax on to of it, So I that package really is
$ 100.00 bucks wort
h, I ow You some more money, if Not! Please send me a receipt stating how much
the disk was really worth, and an explanation as to how and way thew mistake
was made…

Or maybe Canada Customes has You on its payroll… Grin!!!!

Dieter!

Dieter

The BootMods disk that You send me, are they for the MM/1a (68340 CPU), or just
for the 68070 cpu? please let me know as soon as possible, thanks!

Dieter

Dieter

Randy, since os9 stores in 8k blocks, and SC (my version) is 17861 in size,
that would mean SC would occupy 23040 or 3 8k blks. Since the space is there,
could I merge a few commands in with SC and save paying rent. For that matter
would it work with other applications??? My startup file is working fine now,
but I don’t have much memory left after Dynastar, Supercomm, and Presto-Partner
get theirs. I also have an empty text window besides term. Memory left is
20 blks or 160k. Sys memory is 56 pgs or 14k. Thanx Charlie

I have upgraded to Nitros9 awhile back and now dynacalc crashes the computer
i confirmed its nitros by booting up to a normal os9 disk and it works fine

anyone else have this problem or better yet a solution??

Mike

I finaly got a serial mouse for my coco 3,. Using Bruceisteds driers it
flies! but I have a questio. Somethings such as games would be beter operated
with a joystick. How ccan I use both the mouse for gshell as well as my
hires interfacce simotaniously for games that need my deluxe joystick/
Is there a patch I can do to the new cc3io so I can have both?// Also
althougn my mouse is both Logitec,mousesystems and microsoft compatible
could a patcch be made to thew new cc3io that would let me change windows
with my third mouse button? if so how? I have the smouse.ar package and
its source whicch I think is also in esw110.ar (Thats where I got mine)
so asm sources of patcching is not that hard to do if I must do it by
sourcecode to add those funchions I ddesire.
My mouse is a procorp mouse II with support of 6400 DPI! works
super on gshell.. not sure if I want to play Rescue on fractalis with a
mouse though. it would drivve me crazy! a trackball…..? that would do!
also wherre can I get the information on how to write programs
in decb to use it? I need the specs. who has those/
Michele Marie Dalene

I just had a pleasant surprise! My speed record up to now for an sz file
send when hooked at 14.4v42, has been in the 535-539 area. I just sent a
43k compressed file to another local Amiga user and it went at 614 cps,
a noticable improvement, directly attributable to the reduced time my new
clock spends checking things at its tick time. This intrigues me, and
I may see if there is anything else I can do to speed it up even more.
In the meantime, if you are a 4n1 user and run in the native mode, give
this clock a try once Paul makes it visible. Cheers all, Gene

Has anybody else noticed, and who is running NITROS-9, that UnDel doesn’t
work anymore? Apparently Wes & Company must have used ed 28 of RBF as the
model for the NATIVE mode RBF ed31 now shipping. Its the last one I have
anyway.

I beleive I have an ed32 of RBF.mn that actually works again, one slight
problem earlier this evening but found a place where the FAT was being
manipulated and I had plugged in the wrong setof bit shifters from the
native mode repertory. s/b fixed now.

Now, what I want is beta testers. I will email the .ipc file only, with
instructs to go with, that way I don’t step on too many toes. This is how
I will upload it eventually also. Anybody with a 63B09 equipt coco3
currently using NITROS-9 s/b able to use it, but no one else.

Its in memory right now here, getting its first taste of beta testing on
my own system.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, WDTV5@delphi.com

I have patched my window descriptors for the 25 line grfdrv but when I iniz
them and fork a shell to them they
appear as 24 line windows! Why? Can anyone tell me or do I have to wcreate the
windows each time?

Hi Matthew, I have send of a letter to Your Company (HardSoft) to register my
SCSISYS driver 1.0 also have included a cheque for $25 Dollars.

Am very impressed with the speed increase on my DISTO 4in1 setup, it is just my
spare rig, but I like it to have the best drivers, thanks!

Can You also send me a list of all the products You sell…

G’Day!

Dieter

I applied the 25 line grfdrv patch but I was wondering if anyone can tell me how

to patch the window descriptors so that they are 25 lines. Or do I have to
wcreate the windows with 25 lines?

I read somewhere that Alan Dekok had made new VDGINT files that would
work with the Disto 2meg upgrade; Does anyone know where he has uploaded
these files to? I have the ones he first made but need the new ones to
work with my upgrade.
Don

Thanks ken. I didn’t see what happened to my message until I had logged
off. The general question I had for him was I can use both of my ST277n
drives under scsisys1.0 but when I switch to scsisys2.2 I can only use
the drive that was refurb’ed the other one I can do a scsifmt with
scsifmt2.2 but it will not use the 2.2 driver to do a logical format.
where I can do both with 1.0 driver and scsifmt.
Don

> Leave a message to COLIN MCKAY (I’m not sure if that is his user name or
> not, no space between names). He sales Matt’s drivers (commercial
> version).

Colin isn’t active on Delphi, but does frequent the CoCo, OS-9, and
MM1_Tech echos on Fido, as well as the Princeton CoCo list. (There are
just too many active forums to keep up So Colin follows those
groups, and I try to monitor this forum and the CIS OS-9 area, and we
keep each other informed of the highlights.

So, you can reach Colin through me, or you can contact him directly through
Delphi Internet mail at IN%”cmckay@UUISIS.ISIS.ORG”.

… / Ken
————————————————————————–
Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237

I am looking for someone that is running 2 ST-XXXn drives with Matt Thompson
new drivers. I am running 2 – ST277n drives with the version 1.0 drivers.
I got the version 2.2 drivers. I was able to make discriptors for drive 0
and update to version 2.2. I maded discriptors for the second drive. did
a PHYISICAL (low level) format OK then; when I went to do a LOGICAL format
the lite would flicker a bit then just stay lite; after a 1/2 hour I shut
it off. Now with version 1.0 after several formats (PHYS and LOGIC) I am
able to use both drives. But; I tried version 2.2 again but when I do a
dir on drive 1 the lite comes on and just hangs there. Logical format is
the same lite will flicker then hang there. Does anyone have a idea as to
why this is happening.
Don

Dear friends:
I am attempting to install Nitro9 v.115 and have run into a problem. I
am using the Module by Module patch method. Everything patched okay. I
then attempted to use the following command:
kwikboot -G=kernel.nv115 -f=/d0

It first activates /d1 and finds the file, it then accesses /d0. Next I
get an error message stating that the file already exists. It does on /d1,
but not on /d0 where it needs to go. This appears to be an error in the
documentation. I tried call the phone number for GaleForce 1-604-589-1660,
but I never get an answer. From 8am – 5 pm pst it is supposed to be a
voice line, At 5 pm – 8 am a BBS. Wes Gale was last on delphi on 2/7/94.
Any help in :
1. Getting Nitro running
2. Getting in touch with Wes Gale
would be greatly appreciated.
With all best wishes,
Brother Jeremy, CSJW
OS9 User’s Group Treasurer

By binary mail I am sending WTHOMPSON an AR file of the DECB program that
I used to try and format my ST157N for 256 byte sector use.
About 785 lines which did everything but format the drive for 256
byte sectors. Also may be usefull on other SCSI drives.

I NEVER got the drive to use 256 Byte sectors.
SEAGATE had to reload the firmware before any use on OS9.

Check the parity jumper on the drive and the SCSI ID.

If you get to any response from the drive,
use SCSISys 1.0 and 512 Byte sectors.

Make note of the number of times the LED flashes,
My ST157N drive now flashes eight times.
The controller is unable to read the operating system
off the drive. (TOO much oil put into the drive in a
failed attempt to get the drive to rotate with out a crank).

SHF

Someone on fido told me how to make the scsi drive cable correctly
but after correcting that I STILL get no response fron the hard drive.
One question: who out there has a 4in1/sc2 on their coco3 with the
6309 cpu? I am wonderPO To: COCOKIWI

I have a Seagate 157n. I’m pretty sure that has the contoller on it.
As far as 256/512 byte sectors, I am using the scsisys so I want to go to
512 sectors but the 157n is capable of both.
Thanks,
Wayne

Been a while since I logged on to reply to your last message. If I have good
information on the ken-ton addresses iti can be FF74 or FF70. I believe
those are the selectable addresses. Mark

Are there other versions of the drivers for the Super Controller II
available? The reason I ask is when I run B&B’s tuneup command to
powerboost my system for the 6309, it reports that it can’t match the
SCII modules. I use the .slp versions because I’ve had no luck with
boots using the .irq versions.

I can’t remember how to do what you did but I will try the iniz /d0 you
suggest.
Thanks,
Wayne

Wes,
I am haveing problems with getting no-drivers to work with Nitro.
At first, the SC2 drivers I had were not recognized by Nitro. Then
a friend in my coco club let me try out his SC2 drivers. They are
differnt from the ones I had AND Nitro could patch them. They even
worked when I put them in a boot. But then a problem reared its ugly
head. After a while I would get an
202 – Interrupt Polling Table Full
I did some investigating and found that after I booted up with the
cc3disk.slp (nv1.15) the would occour after the floppy had been
accessed 11 times. Reboot and the same thing, 11 time and error 202.
I even tried different versions of the nitro’d cc3disk.slp
(nv1.00, nv1.107, and nv1.115) even the stock cc3disk.slp in the
nitro boot had the same error. I have a coco3 512k, newer MPI(coco3
upgrade), disto SC2 (slot 4), B&B cocoxt(slot3), Tandy delux rs-232 pak
(slot1). I have an HHD63B09E in the coco with nitro v1.15/1.16.
Your help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Wayne

Where can I find these drivers and which one do I need? I have a Super
Controller II and a MPI, a Ken-Ton inter face (SCSI) and a Fujitsu MFM HD

w/adaptec 4000 controller board.

Right on..I boo,booed! I just forgot the address!
I have a SC II…the Sector buffer was the problem,conflicts with the Ken-ton..
the reason for the 4 in one bit! foot in mouth!
Dennis

Kenton and an FF50 address?? I have a ken-ton system and so far as I knew
it addressed itself starting at FF74 with a jumper option for FF70. This
is also tha base address that is in the descriptor for the hard drives I
have installed. I do not have a DISTO controller (I did get the 2 Meg) so
the controllers may indeed clash but I don’t think it is in the FF50 range.
If you know of something I missed I am interested. As for the drivers for
a kenton system, the SCSISYS drivers here on delphi from Matt Thompson
should do a fine job for Denny. Mark

I have a Disto SC II and a Ken-Ton SCSI interface. I guess there is a hardware
prot address clash between the two of them. I am forced to use an old FD-501
controller with my newly acquired 75 meg hard drive. From what I have been told
I need a new CC3disk
driver that will work with the Super Controller II and Ken-Ton SCSI interface.
Can anyone tell me where I might be able to get a copy of the needed drivers?

I have tried to get the new VDGINT modules that Alan Dekok did to
work with my 2meg system and everytime the VDG screen crashs. I can use a
VDG screen with the VDG discriptor before I apply his but not with his.
Has anyone got it to work with there 2meg systems if so how. I use a hd6309c,
scII, power boost, Adaptec/2HD’s.

Tony,
Is there anyway of incorporating Alan Dekok’s VDGInt patches into the
2 meg VDGInt patches. It seems that more system RAM would help a 2 meg
system. Also, the 6309 version would help with speed as well as size.
I’m afraid such a task is way beyond my capabilities.

Roy,
I had the same problem with my SC-II when I crammed it into a PC box. The
solution was to shield the ribbon cable with copper foil and ground one
end of the foil to the CoCo and the other end to the SC-II. You can get
copper foil at most hobby shops. Brass foil would work also, but it’s a
little harder to solder onto. After I shielded the cable the SC-II worked
fine in no-halt mode.
-Rich

Here’s the status on the Tape Backup Project:

I called Colorado Memory Systems to see if the would tell me how the
parallel port interface works. After navigating their phone “HELP” system
and explaining to at least 3 “Customer Support Engineers” that I DID NOT
HAVE AN IBM COMPATIBLE IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, I finally got a “Supervisor”
(could have been the janitor for all I know) who explained to me that
Colorado Memory Systems is keeping the details of the interface secret to
prevent the Korean clone makers from ripping them off. She did admit that
the drive itself uses the same MFM interface as a floppy drive and that there
was a converter board between the parallel port and the MFM port.

A quick check inside my Trakker 250 confirmed this. The converter board
contains a standard Intel 82077 floppy controller chip, plus a big
microcontroller from Motorola that I didn’t recognize.

CMS also gave me a phone number for the Quarter Inch Cassette standards
committee. I called them and for free (!) they are sending all the specs
for the industry standard QIC-117 control language and QIC-80 tape format.
Maybe (I hope) there will be some hints on how the tape drive uses the MFM
interface.

So at this point I have several options:

– Give up on the parallel port idea and make the tape drive work
using the MFM interface. This would be good for everyone who wants
to use a tape drive but don’t have a parallel port, since we could
use the standard floppy controller and cable.

– Disassemble the software from Colorado Memory Systems. This would be
a great intro to 8086 assembly language but vey time consuming.

– Hook up a monitor to the parallel port of a PC and watch it talk to
the tape drive. I would have to build a monitor.

– Write a formal-looking letter from the “QIC committee of the OS9
User’s Group” (assuming I can get Boisy et al to go along) to the
engineering department of CMS requesting the specs and explaining
how we could expand their market for free. I could even sign non-
disclosure agreements and not give the source code to anyone.

– Give up and go home.

Well gang, any ideas? This isn’t going to be as easy as I thought (as
usual!)

-Rich

I am VERY interested in something like that! With the parallel port
hookup one could use the tape backup on more than one computer system too.
ie for those guys that have a pc and a coco3.
Thanks,
Wayne

Sorry Ken,
It won’t work unless you’ve got a real, bi-directional parallel port.
I made my own, and the DISTO 3N1 may also have one. There may be some way
to attach a tape drive with a simple interface and if so I’ll explore it.
If nothing else I’ll post the plans for my bi-directional port.
-Rich

I would definatly be interested, I take it this is for CoCo OS-9? if so,
I wish you the best of luck, as you will have to write a manager for it
as well, RBF is obviosly for random block devices (floppies, HD’s, etc)
SCF is for serial devices like printers, and terminals…you would need
the Microware SBF (seqential block file manager)…and since Mware aint
gonna give it to ya, you will have to write one..unless you can somehow
“trick” SCF or RBF to use a tape drive..

-* Mike

in any case, good luck.

Does anyone have any idea why Gshell would hang during the “rollover” of the
menu bar? This never happened before, I just started setting up Gshell and
MV for my girlfriend when she uses my CoCo, and everything hangs, I am
using the STOCK tandy windint. and used the stock gshell also.????

I am stuck…

-** Mike

Randy,
According to my Seagate Installer’s manual, the ST-225 is a MFM drive with
4 heads, 615 tracks and a step pulse of 5-200 microseconds. You need to set
up the driver so it write precompensates tracks 300-614. It DOES NOT have
an auto-park feature, so you should remember to park it before powerdown.
If you need to know anything else drop me some e-mail.
-Rich

Does anyone know if it’s ok to run an RLL drive in MFM mode using an MFM
controller?

-Rich

Thanks very much for leaving such a long and detailed message, but I think
my query was as to whether you can run a disk with an interleave factor
of 2 with a system that has some disks and the device driver coded for
an interleave factor of 3 without screwing up the system or the disks.
Yes, I know I can use “dmode” to change the interleave factor, but to do this
every time you put a diiferently formatted disk in is a hassle.

My /p prints ok not connected to SIG’s. Also OK on OS9. When printing the
screen on Delphi it prints periods and letters. ra.t co…..mme etc.
Any suggestions out there? (:-)

Am using ulterm to contact Genie. When
Genie answers, the dialing info screen won’t go away and cut me through.
The tbl seems to be on my end. Any ideas.(:-)

I am currently using the SCSISYS 1.0 until the disks arrive (I put in for
the 2.0 version) making the descriptors was real easy with his program
and setting up the hard disk was also easy. I used 512 byte sectors right
off because you can get more space that way. if your having a problem
with his drivers, I can help.

Mike

I was able to get the new hard drive up and running using SCSISYS_1.0 by
Matt Thompson. I was also able to access the old st-138n. Now the challenge
will be to be able to use both. The st-138n as /h0 and the st-251 as /h1.
I alread have the cable made up. I still have to play with the descriptors
a bit. One question that I have received differing opinions is do I have
to remove the terminating resistors from one of the drives?
With all best wishes.
Brother Jeremy, CSJW

Randy,

I notice one pecular thing about supercomm. It grabs a lot of system ram.
accounting for the XTP value of sacia (for recieve buffer) and the extra path to

/NIL (VRN timing) it grabs 11 pages of ram for itself (not counting XTP value or

VRN) I even removed VRN and reduced the XTP value to see what happens. Why does
it grab so much system ram? is there anyway to make it less hungry for ram?

Mike

I finally found the bug that has been plaquing me for 2 months. This bug is with

GrfInt in the bootfile I cannot use /w to do any window operations It totally
crashes the system. Well what i discovered it my /w1 descriptor is set to
type=01 (vdg) as soon as i placed it back as type=80 it worked! NOTE: with
WindInt, it would skip /w1 and use /w2. apparently windint is a little bit
smarter. It also made no difference if VDGInt was in memory or not. I originally

thought supercomm was at fault since it would crash the system when booted after

i removed WindInt from the boot. Well apparently GrfInt’s coding isn’t smart
enough to go around type 1 windows. Thought id pass this one on.

Mike

I need a volunteer to do a complete review of the latest version of NitrOS9
(Ver. 1.15). The ideal person should NOT already have a copy if NitrOS9
installed, but should be a user with enough experience to install and use this
package while taking notes along the way to write the review. Also, this person

should be able to write decently. No Hemmingways are expected, just be able to
put your thoughts on paper to where it can be edited for clarity and
correctness. You don’t need to be an English major to do this (grin).

Whomever gets to do this gets to keep the NitrOS9 package as their fee for doing

the review. Consequently, we expect a decent amount of time to be spent on this

and a good, accurate and unbiased review to be made. I’d like to include the
review in the December or January issue of Metamorphosis, so please make sure
you also have the time required to do this.

All volunteers please e-mail me your requests and your system particulars.
Thanks!

Mark Griffith
Dirt Cheap Computer Stuff Co.
“Cheap, But Not Trash”

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Does anyone know if any of the parallel ports available for the coco is
bidirectional? There is a new product out for PC clones (portables mainly)
that is a Sound Blaster type sound board but hooks to a parallel port. I’m not
sure if a bidirectional port is needed but I would think so. This seems like a
decent way to add quality sound to our cocos.
I have seen the sound board in Computer Shopper and I also just got a catalog
from Tiger software and the have some info about it. It is called the
Audioport. It is billed as multimedia sound for your laptop. It plugs into the

parallel port and gives microphone input, audio output via builtin speaker or
external amp/headphones, and multi-timbral FM sysnthesis. It also is AC/DC
powered. It retails for around $70.
Has anyone else seen this product? I’m just fishing for ideas so lets hear
them!
Thanks,
Wayne