Happy New Year Everybody!!!

————————————
Zack C Sessions
ColorSystems

“I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assimi … OOOOHHH, DOUGHNUTS!”

Randy, Ken, Joel and other interested parties -

First some good news. I just received 2 additional orders for the G-WINDOWS
port. That makes 12. Only 8 to go.

Went over all the pertinent messages and Mike Sweet’s file. Think I have a
little better undertanding of K-Windows.

I’m concentrating on ways G-WINDOWS can co-exist with K-Windows under all
circumstances. I see no reason G-WINDOWS can’t be started from a K-Windows
screen. When exiting G-WINDOWS, the user would return to the original screen.
There should be no need for a separate bootdisk. However, the Fn keys would
not be used to exit G-WINDOWS; rather, it appears the best way is to exit is
to add the exit routine to one of G-WINDOWS’ menus.

Because of the way wcf traps keyboard certain information, the output of
snddrv.mm1 will have to go directly to G-WINDOWS when G-WINDOWS is the active
screen. A little tinkering with the respective paths should prevent K-Windows
from doing unexpected things to G-WINDOWS. When exiting G-WINDOWS, all paths
will be restored. Since I’ll be mucking around with paths, it might be
desirable to tinker with the mouse path as well.

The above should work fine so long as no attempts are made to hot-key between
screens. Hot-keying poses another set of problems. Starting G-WINDOWS
is no problem but probably the use a separate screen to start G-WINDOWS, as
suggested by Joel, is the way to go. A menu item can be used to send
K-Windows the code to return to the original screen from which other screens
could be selected. At the same time, paths would be restored. So far, no
problem. When the user tries to return to G-WINDOWS, it doesn’t know it is
the active process – this is the problem.

The method I’m leaning towards to solve the hot-key problem is to have
G-WINDOWS start a separate process (call it snoopy) when it’s being
initialized. Snoopy’s main function would be to do the necessary ‘switching’
to insure keyboard and mouse information went to the proper manager. To do
this, snoopy would query wcf periodically to find which screen is active.
This solution is rather crude (brute force) but will require no changes
to K-Windows. One big question is what is meant by ‘periodically’. The
period wants to long enough so the overhead introduced is not perceptable.
But it wants to be short enough so switching between G-WINDOWS and other
screens ‘feels’ instantaneous to the user. Snoopy could also trigger redraw-
ing the G-WINDOWS screen in case it had been corrupted by inadvertantly drag-
ging another screen to the screen displaying G-WINDOWS.

There is a more elegant solution but this requires a change to K-Windows
(wcf). Simply, there would be a data module associated with K-Windows. A
process that didn’t want to avail itself of the editing and trapping features
of wcf would write its screen number in the data module. Wcf would be
modified so keyboard/mouse information would follow one of 2 paths. The first
path would be the existing path which includes the editing/trapping features.
The second path would by-pass these features and pass all the keyboard/mouse
information to the process. The second path would be selected for those
processes which have identified themselves in the data module. One other
capability must be added when in the by-pass mode. Something along the use
of a ‘meta-character’ would be necessary to permit changing screens. When
in the by-pass mode, wcf would examine input for this character. If present,
the data following would follow the normal path. It might be desirable to
include this character in the data module so a process could specify its own,
unique metacharacter. Not only would G-WINDOWS benefit from this (makes for
a straight forward port) but programmers could avail themselves of the keys
now prohibited to them.

Ed Gresick – DELMAR CO

Betty and I wish all a very Healthy, Happy and Prosperous New Year.

Betty and Ed Gresick

I’m sure someone else has already mentioned this, but I’ll tell you before
reading the rest of the thread . You don’t have to treat your .r files
as libaries, treat them as seaperate files to link. I don’t use cc (I
prefer to use my memory for other things ), but I’m sure you’ll be able
to link everything using the following command:

cc os9top.c os9search.r os9chdel.r os9enter.r keyword.r -l=/d2/lib/cgfx.l

The precompiler (cc) should compile the .c file to a .r file then link in
all the .r files on the command line and finally link to the libraries

(oops wrong key). As an aside a single .r file is not really a library and
so there is no reason to treat it like one. If you want you can merge all
your .r files together into a single file and treat that like a lib file.
Read page B-5 of the compiler manual for info about user defined libraries.
and pages 1-13 and 1-14 for info about using the compiler (cc1, cc should
implement the same features).

Hope this helps, some.

Chris

Does anyone have any info or specs on a Miniscribe 8425SA 20meg SCSI drive?
Any help is appreciated. ]]> http://www.coco3.com/community/1994/12/scsi-5/feed 4 http://www.coco3.com/community/1994/12/re-bbs-re-msg-84471-2 http://www.coco3.com/community/1994/12/re-bbs-re-msg-84471-2#comments Fri, 30 Dec 1994 21:59:00 +0000 Delphi http://www.coco3.com/community/1994/12/re-bbs-re-msg-84471-2/ 84479 30-DEC 21:59 Telecom (6809)
RE: BBS (Re: Msg 84471)
From: CBJ To: REVWCP

Rev,
The CoCo can handle it. I’m running 4 serial ports (2 modems, a nullmodem
to an AT clone and a terminal) on mine with no major problems. I am also using
a 1 Meg Ram pak and four hard drives through Disto equipment. The main system
is a 1MEG CoCo (soon to be replaced ith 2 MEGs. I am also going to add to the
system a Ken-ton SCSI interface. The hole system runs under StG. This is the
best BBS software for my purposes. It is very complete and very powerful. It
is also fairly Bug Free. If you are interested I can give you more details.
Car}i{_S|0Asl

We (Erie County Color Computer Club) use OS9 Level II BBS originally
from Alpha Software Technologies and now I think Rick’s Computer
Enterprise carries it. It is extremely easy to modify, customize
and run external programs from and is farily bulletproof. The only
problem is it is not compatible with Shell+, but I suppose a good
hacker could fix that. If you want to check it out, give it a call
at (716)649-1368. I just checked, the entire CocoPro! package sells
for $55 from Rick’s. That includes the BBS, Presto Partner, Simply
Better WP, V-Term, Data Windows, Multi-Menus, Newspaper09, News
Fonts, Tools II, Ddisk Manager Tree, Level II Tools, Data Merger,
and Solitaire. Most of them are OS-9 and many of the Utilities
are excellent. I have most of them and recommend the package because
it costs less than I paid for any 2 of them!

Is it me? I wish uploads would say what machine/OS (OS-9 vs. OS-9/68000)
the thing would run on. I get tired downloading something only to find that
it is for the CoCo (No offense here, the same could be said in reverse) and
I try to use it on an OSK box. Is it possible that OSK or OS9 could be used
as a keyword? That used to be done more in the past. I think a lot of users
would appreciate it, especially newer users. Also, put vital info in the
docs rather than in the program description. I have had a couple of d/l where
something was missing from the docs but it was in the program description.
That would really drive someone crazy. I know I’m being picky but there were
a lot of times where I wish these things were done……and I would have less
gray hair and more hair (Grin).

If you have a CD-i player, RUN, don’t walk, to your favorite CD-i store
and pick up Dragon’s Lair II. This is the most visually stunning game I have
ever seen on any home system or in the arcade, bar none. It is simply
incredible. If you like Dragon’s Lair, the sequel makes the original look
like Pong.

I say this is the 2nd best game ever created. Space Ace is still first,
simply because, as a character, Ace is a lot more fun to watch than Dirk.

..Eric…

> I doubt 3DO will catch on then.

Don’t speak so fast. Unfortunately 3DO is posing an immeasureable threat
to CD-i. In most stores I go to (and from messages on CompuServe’s CD-i
section, this is a very widespread phenomenon) salesmen are pushing 3DO
bigtime. In particular, even people who come in looking at getting a CD-i
player are being turned by salsmen towards the 3DO. I’ve talked to many of
these salesmen, and not only are they diehard 3DO supporters, many of them
own the system themselves and have a big interest in seeing it succeed.

> A good deal for CD-i was Sears and a couple of the chain stores…

Unfortunately at many of the Sears stores they rarely even turn the
machine on. Even when they do they don’t run anything impressive on it and
no one working there knows squat about it. Chains like Best Buy and
Incredible Universe are Better but even these places still don’t push CD-i
nearly as much as ANY of the other systems they carry and they don’t stock
even a decent supply of CD-i titles, making it look as though CD-i doesn’t
have a lot available for it. Last time I walked into Circuit City they had
placed a 3DO in the CD-i custom display kiosk. Talk about a slap in the
face!

..Eric…

please read 91104, I meant to send to all 3 of u fellows. Ray N. Year.

can anyone tell me about infoexpress (where I can find it, etc.)? I have
heard that it will allow me to do offline readiing on delphi. thank you.

Fellows I’ve tried all your sugestions and still have 600 baud printing.
Please read FO’s 91095,91096 and 91099. believe you’ll see the diference
of opinion…also I can change the /p module per CHYDE, but it doesn’t
change either the 600 or 1200 baud in the control panel. The control
panel sees to dominate, but u can’t elimenate it.

basic) that is program
to set the font to coorespondence 12 with bold. then I load the DM disk
to print about 4 pages of a new lease. Ray

Forwarded from SKEPTIC listserv:

————————- snip ————————-
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 1994 18:52:01 -0500
From: Garrison Hilliard
Subject: Pentium

Q&A: THE PENTIUM FDIV BUG

Q: How many Pentium designers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: 1.99904274017, but that’s close enough for non-technical people.

Q: What do you get when you cross a Pentium PC with a research grant?
A: A mad scientist.

Q: What’s another name for the “Intel Inside” sticker they put on
Pentiums?
A: The warning label.

Q: What do you call a series of FDIV instructions on a Pentium?
A: Successive approximations.

Q: Complete the following word analogy: Add is to Subtract as Multiply
is to:
1) Divide
2) ROUND
3) RANDOM
4) On a Pentium, all of the above
A: Number 4.

Q: What algorithm did Intel use in the Pentium’s floating point divider?
A: “Life is like a box of chocolates.” (Source: F. Gump of Intel)

Q: Why didn’t Intel call the Pentium the 586?
A: Because they added 486 and 100 on the first Pentium and got
585.999983605.

Q: According to Intel, the Pentium conforms to the IEEE standards 754 and
854 for floating point arithmetic. If you fly in aircraft designed using
a Pentium, what is the correct pronunciation of “IEEE”?
A: Aaaaaaaiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee!

TOP TEN NEW INTEL SLOGANS FOR THE PENTIUM
—————————————————————————

9.9999973251 It’s a FLAW, Dammit, not a Bug
8.9999163362 It’s Close Enough, We Say So
7.9999414610 Nearly 300 Correct Opcodes
6.9999831538 You Don’t Need to Know What’s Inside
5.9999835137 Redefining the PC — and Mathematics As Well
4.9999999021 We Fixed It, Really
3.9998245917 Division Considered Harmful
2.9991523619 Why Do You Think They Call It *Floating* Point?
1.9999103517 We’re Looking for a Few Good Flaws
0.9999999998 The Errata Inside

For those skeptical of Intel…
————————- snip ————————-

Merry Christmas everyone!

yes, GESPAC has a nice offering. I notice lately that they have come out
with a lot of Intel/ Windows stuff. It must hurt them to have to
do that, but customers are a demanding lot! With the low price of
PC’s, a plant engineer can set up a nice operator workstation with
good graphics and never have to write a line of code– never see
a “C” compiler. Maybe the Power PC will open up a new opportunity.
Do you think K-windows will be a “hit” on the power PC?

Allen

Hi all,

In case your wondering why I haven’t made the least bit of noise around
here, my account was suspended last month and as you know it takes weeks
for Delphi to process things. So here I am. I know you are all jumping for
joy.

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Hi all! This is Jim Vestal aka JEVESTAL, I’m borrowing a friend’s account
to post this so please don’t send me email on this account.

I’m posting this due to my account being shut down as of today until at
least the first week of Januany. I may not be able to read the forum
messages until then and won’t be able to make the cool confs until then
too.

If you send email to JEVESTAL account I won’t get it until I have access
again.

You can email me on my BBS (Narnia BBS), the internet email address is:

jevestal%narnia@sandv.chi.il.us

or

jevestal@narnia.citrus.sac.ca.us

I’ll be monitoring the CoColist via a local bulletin board.

Wishing all you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, see you all in 1995!

Jim

I managed to get ded from the app files..BUT I dont know how to quite
understand u’re instructs. The deskmate dos gets all those icons. I
tried my os9 System disk then changed to the deskmate desk using the
chx chd routine but typing OS9>ded os9boot gets me errors. Could U
explain when I place the SYS disk in or the DESKM disk in when etc.?
I’m trying to change the baud in the DESKMATE disk to 2400–maybe
I haven’t explained that very well. I wouldn’t blame U if U give up;
what with christmas and all. Have a good one—-:-) Ray

Dear friends:
Once again it is almost Christmastide. I want to take the
opportunity to thank all of you who have given so many gifts
to me and the rest of the OS-9 community this past year. Your
willingness to share programming and technical knowledge…your
words of support and encouragment to newcomers…your kind notes
to me at various times, both to assist when I have a computer
related need, or just to say hello. My chosen life, that as a
monk, allows me few luxuries. Having taken a vow of poverty, I
do not have a great deal of personal possessions, and as far as
the world is concerned, I am a poor man. But, when I count all
of you, my friends, I am quite wealthy indeed.

At Midnight mass, on Christmas eve, it is customary for a priest
to remember family and friends during the prayers. I want to
assure that you will all be in my prayers that night. As has
become my own custom, if there are any that you would like me to
remember in my prayers that night, any special intentions for
yourselves, your friends, and family, please send me an email
message with your intentions and I will be pleased to remember
them in prayer.

I know that I have said this many times, but the OS-9 community
is a very special part of my life. I look foreward to the Fests,
and other times when we can get together. I wish all of you a
blessed holiday time, and a peacefull and prosperous New Year.

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: With all best wishes, :::::: 2 Kings 2:23-24 :::
:: Brother Jeremy, CSJW :::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: OS9 Users Group Treasurer :: revwcp@delphi.com ::
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: CIS – 76477,142 :::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

I have a problem booting when I first power up!I will turn my computer on
and everything goes on and up to speed(including my hard drives) and I
try to boot. It starts with floppy then reads the startup from hard drive.
It fails at first but when I turn off /h0 and boot straight from floppy
and do a dcheck of /h0 then reboot,IT DOES!!!Why didn’t it do it the
first time?Oh yea I did turn on /h0 before I did a dcheck of it. It also
sometimes boots right when after I have had the computer running in rsdos
for some time(about 30mins to an hour).I know that more info will
probably be needed to solve this dilema so I will answere all questions
as best I can!

Thanks to all who responded to my qwery.

COM OS9 works great.

M E R R Y C H R I S T M A S

&

H A P P Y N E W Y E A R

John D

> The whole idea behind GNU software is to make good software avaialble to
> the public at little or no charge, that’s why the restrictions. Providing
> source makes it easier for the nrearly free programs to be improved upon,

> … leave it to others to add versatility and bells n’ whistles.

The idea _is_ good and noble, but kinda halts us “mercenary” lots…

On a BBS once, we got into a discussion about providing source with your
release. One guy said he would NOT use anything that did not have source.
I have released the source with one of my programs (“gfx3″ from way back
when..). But since then, especially in the light of the hassle that Carl
Kreider went through with unauthorized releases of “ar” (and he didn’t
even provide source, I don’t think), I have decided that it could cause
you problems if someone clobbered up your code and re-released it in your
name, so I’m not sure that I’m as much in favor or releasing code as I
once was.

Again, I can see the point of the restrictions on the GNU stuff, but if
I should release anything, even to the PD, I would still prefer to retain
control over what is done with the code, especially if I’m going to get
blamed for it. Of course, not releasing code still does not preclude
someone’s disassembling the code and working on it, but that would require
a capability in one that would indicate that he could produce good code in
his modifications.

— David Breeding –
CompuServe : 72330,2051
Delphi : DBREEDING

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Hi everyone,

I’m in the process of adding VT-100 support to LinkUp and need some type
of documentation that outlines the various VT-100 codes and what they do,
as well as how to respond to them if necessary.

I would appreciate any files one could e-mail me.

I own a CGP-220, recently i got a 486 system and there isn’t a driver for
this printer. If i remember right , this printer was also made by canon,
with a radio shack label on it, whats the canon model # for the cgp-220?
anyone know?

Marty;

I got a sony 1302 monitor the other day and seem to have a problem with it.
when I turn on the system the screen will come up fine then after it warms
about a minute there is a snap and I get 2 yellow line across the top of the
screen
athis the monitor works fine. would you have a sujestion (sp) as to what it may
be?
Don

I left a message recently in the service forum asking if Delphi was going to
support the new Kermit 5A with sliding window and variable packet sizes. I
was told that no one in service knows one way or the other but that Delphi
was working on upgrades for 1995. This is very fast transfer protocol – I
did some tests on a dedicated 9600 baud line and got about 11,000 bits per
second – so maybe if we all flood the feedback mail with request for this
transfer protocol Delphi will oblige by addding it for ’95.

Stephen (PAGAN)

I have been using the Tandy Deskmate program lately to prepare a rental
lease etc. The Baud rate is 600 which is fairly slow on my DMP-107
printer. I would like to change it to 2400 baud (the program that is).
but I sure need some help. Frank Swygert suggested I ask on OS9 forum.
I am familiar with OS9 ( not a hacker) and have used Supercomm with all
the new parches in the boot file ok……RAY (2RSMITH)

Has anyone else notice that you can no longer go from the Delphi sigon
promopt to the OS9 SIG by just doing a “gr os9″. I now have to first do a
“go computing” then a “os9″ to get to this sig.

John D.

Marty, maybe you can help me put an end to my current monitor problem. I
always have pix at startup but after about 10minutes the screen goes black.
I can get the pix back with a blow to the side and that works a couple of times
but then it goes down for the count. The monitor is combination of two different

Magnavoxs, namely a tube from one model, the guts from another. I bought it for
dirt at Atlanta cause my monitor (CM8) had developed loss of hoz hold. Is this
an overheating problem or a break in the circuit board?
I plan to get a Sony after Christmas but I would like to get to the cause
of this problem if possible. I know I’m not giving you a wealth of useable
info here, but maybe you can suggest where the problem might live.
One more symptom is the picture starts dancing or shrinking a little
before it goes black. Thats it. If I leave it off for a half hour, I’m back
in business again. Thanx Charlie

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I need to know exactly what kind of physical video connector
the MM/1 uses, and what its pin out is. I’ve been told
that it uses a standard DB 9 female connector on the MM/1.
IS this so?

Does the MM/1 put out the same sort of RGB analog video at 15.75 KHz
H sync rate and 60 Hz vertical sync rate that is put out by the CoCo 3?
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OS-9 Late Night
Conference Schedual
For December AND January
Date Time(EST) Topic
————————————————————-
December 5, 1994 10:00 PM Open Forum

December 12, 1994 10:00 PM Open Forum

December 19, 1994 10:00 PM OS-9: The Year in Review
What exactly was
accomplished in ’94 and
what can we improve on?
With CD-I hitting the
mainstream with good
success and Personal OS-9
Software starting to come
of age, it gives us
plenty to talk about!

December 26, 1994 10:00 PM Open Forum

January 2, 1994 10:00 PM OS-9 in ’95!
What lies ahead for
OS-9 and the OS-9 User’s
Group in the Coming year?

January 9, 1994 10:00 PM Open Forum

January 16, 1994 10:00 PM Countdown to Chicago!
Come join members of
the Glennside Color
Computer Club as we
discuss the upcoming
Chicago Cocofest, which
takes place on April
29,30 1994!

January 23, 1994 10:00 PM Open Forum

January 30, 1994 10:00 PM Open Forum

>Chris<

Hello All, and Happy Holidays!

Quite unfortunately, my CoCos hard drive crashed yesterday 12/11. What
a bummer. I do not know how long it will be before I am back on-line with
my Trusty Little CoCo. I still have on-line access with the 486 non-Intel
PC at work so I can read the forum just before I have to start slaving. I
would like to know some tid-bits of info from anyone who has logged on with
a PC. I am using a program that emmulates ProComm, it came with a modem I
had bought for my CoCo. If anyone is familiar with the OS-9 program,
TelStar, it works similar. I have these wierd characters that precede dis-
plays such as these forum messages. There is a total of 10. I do not know
how to replicate a “right arrow” so I will use this < -. These are the char-
acters: < -(1;1H<-(2H I have gone into "Using Delphi" and cannot find any-
thing that would help me there. The only thing that I can think of is term-
inal emmulation. I cannot figure out how to change it in this program. Any
help will be most appreciated. See ya.

LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in!

-= 01GEN40 =-

Welp, pick up two new CD-i titles today. Mutant Rampage: Bodyslam, and
Dragons lair II: Timewarp. Both are excellent.

Mutant Rampage is a fast paced, knock ‘em, sock ‘em, beat the heck outa
the Mutant bad guys game… It has 4 levels, the first 3 have 3 different
scenes (citys), the last just one (New York, the roughest/tuffest place in the
world). This is a real action game! and quite challengeing. The graphics are
supurb, along with the background music and sound effects. This is by far
my favorate game so far, really gets the heart pumping!

Dragons Lair II, is, of course the sequeal to the famous Dragons Lair
game. I haven’t played it in depth yet, but it definately starts out much
harder then the original. Once again the graphics/sound and action are great.

I noticed several more new titles in the local Best Buy(s) this weekend. They
must have finally got their XMas releases in… Hall of Fame Football,
Earth Control (or something like that) and one other game struck my interest
but I didn’t want to drop too much $$$ all at once… And I saw Dances With
Wolves there too, which I definately will get next time I have a chance
and some extra $$$… Looks like there will be lots of good stocking
stuffers for poeple with CD-i players!
–
Paul Jerkatis – SandV BBS (708)352-0948: OS-9 Support
UUCP: amiserv.xnet.com!vpnet!sandv!mithelen …or… mithelen@sandv.chi.il.us
Internet: MITHELEN@Delphi.com

Please delete all the files in da new that refer to PowerBasic. I will upload
new files with the new name CDL Basic.

Sorry for the trouble.

Thanks
Frank

PowerBasic for OS9/68000 has a new name.

CDL Basic for OS9/68000

It was brought to our attention that the name PowerBasic was in use in the PC
world and this confused many people. In order to avoid confusion (and avoid
spending far too much time with lawyers) we decided to change the name. Hope
this doesn’t confuse too
many people.

Frank

PS CDL Basic comes from ‘Computer Design Labs’, the creators of the compiler.

Out of curiosity I downloaded the benchmark programs that Frank Hogg offered
for his new PowerBasic compiler. I converted these programs to “C” and
compiled with Ultra C. I used no optimization (-o=0) and used the “csl”
trap library (-i). In each case, I tried to faithfully duplicate the
function of Frank’s original code rather than use any slick tricks to speed
things up. Where C doesn’t have an equivalent function, I used the nearest
I could think of. For example in “bench6″ below, Basic has the “str$”
function for which I substututed the C “sprintf()”.

The codes sizes for UCC listed below do not include the 47K overhead of the
“csl” trap library and the execution times should be considered for
information only; The test programs are do nothing loops that, in my
experience, don’t reflect the real world performance of a complex
application. Also, benchmarks don’t account for development and maintenance
time nor for “intangibles” like personal preference.

Test were done on a Delmar System IV with G-windows and screen saver
deactivated by putting the mouse cursor in the lower right corner.

Execution Time Code Size
(in seconds) (in bytes)
PB UCC PB UCC
— — —- —-
bench2 10 6 1362 1766
bench2m 8 — 1350 —-
bench3 14 8 1380 1758
bench4 24 3 1462 1744
bench5 20 6 1404 1774
bench6 34 95 1432 1796
bench7 40 18 1534 1842
bench8 15 8 1384 1780
bench9 11 4 1346 1760
bench10 75 5 1352 1768
bench11 24 4 1446 1762
bench12 12 6 1370 1772

I am uploading the C source and makefile for the comparisons to the
databases for anyone who is interested.

Stephen (PAGAN)

Has anyone had any luck downloading palm via the gopher section of this SIG?
It seems to think that “palm22.lzh” on chestnut is a subdirectory rather than
a file.

Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.

Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside

Who Sells the basic09 decompiler? or is that company out of business?
I have a need for it and need to get a copy of it.

Hi all,
I’m trying to develop an installation program for applications
written for the MM1. To date, I have a point and click shell that
allows user to specify from what drive, to what drive, name of
program, etc. Once the parameters are established, the install
program runs a script that is provided by the programmer. The script,
of course, is responsible for actually moving the files from
installation disk to wherever.

What do you guys make of this general plan? It is hard to do error
checking in the script file from the install program. (Tips?) Also Joel H
discussed copying files from an installation disk to a pipe and
then from pipe to target disk in a 68 Micros column. I tried that
approach but quickly ran into the limitation that you can’t create
a directory inside a pipe or do a backup of a disk into a pipe. Least
I kept getting error messages! Seemed to mean that the install program
would have to assume that all the component files of the application
program would be in the same directory (/d0) on the installation disk. I
really dont want to make that assumption.

Thoughts appreciated

Bests
—TedJaeger

I need some help in interpeting the following data. It is a dump of a
message exported by RiBBS Export by the name of msg1.

I’m working on a program that will put RiBBS one step closer to being
able to act as a hub and need to be able to generate messages from within
that will get bundled for the appropriate net/node.

I have the FSC0001 document that describes various formats of various FIDO
files, but there are some things in the below that don’t seem to be
documented. Note the lines with *’s. These are what don’t seem to be
documented, nor do I have a clue as to how to generate them.

Addr 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F 0 2 4 6 8 A C E
—- —- —- —- —- —- —- —- —- —————-
0000 0200 0100 0400 FE7A FE7A 0000 0000 3039 …….z.z….09
0010 2044 6563 2039 3420 2030 303A 3034 3A33 Dec 94 00:04:3
0020 3100 4461 7272 656E 2043 6C69 6674 0044 1.Darren Clift.D
0030 6176 6520 4761 6E74 7A00 4372 6561 7469 ave Gantz.Creati
0040 6E67 2061 2074 6573 7420 6D65 7373 6167 ng a test messag
0050 6500 0149 4E54 4C20 313A 3331 3438 362F e..INTL 1:31486/ *
0060 3420 313A 3334 362F 392E 310D 014D 5347 4 1:346/9.1..MSG *
0070 4944 3A20 313A 3334 362F 392E 3140 6669 ID: 1:346/9.1@fi *
0080 646F 6E65 742E 6F72 6720 3865 3564 3030 donet.org 8e5d00 *
0090 6430 0D01 5049 443A 2052 6942 4253 2076 d0..PID: RiBBS v *
00A0 322E 3130 0D54 6869 7320 6973 206A 7573 2.10.This is jus *
00B0 7420 6120 7465 7374 206D 6573 7361 6765 t a test message
00C0 2074 6F20 7374 7564 7920 7768 696C 6520 to study while
00D0 6174 7465 6D70 7469 6E20 746F 2063 7265 attemptin to cre
00E0 6174 6520 6D79 206F 776E 0D0A 6672 6F6D ate my own..from
00F0 2061 2070 726F 6772 616D 2E0D 0A20 200D a program… .

Addr 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F 0 2 4 6 8 A C E
—- —- —- —- —- —- —- —- —- —————-
0100 0A20 2020 2020 2044 6176 650D 0A20 0D0A . Dave.. ..
0110 2D2D 2D20 5269 4242 5320 7632 2E31 300D — RiBBS v2.10. *
0120 0A00 ..

The bytes from offset $52 to $A4 seem to have no documentation
or explanation. Also, am I correct in assumming that the bytes
from offset $10C to $121 are add ons to the text I typed?

What I have in mind is similar to the auto messages generated by TicNote
and AutoFrl, but in this case the messages need to generated for export
rather than for import.

Can anyone shed some light (in an Inside RiBBS type fashion) on the above
data or similar?

I’d really appreciate any help I can get. Thanks
Dave

I’ve downloaded the files you uploaded about PowerBASIC, and I have a few
questions about the language.

– What data structuring facilities does it have (e.g. is there anything
analogous to the BASIC09 TYPE statement)?
– You say it supports separate compilation; does that mean that there are
actual functions with local variables? What’s the syntax for calling a
separately compiled unit, passing parameters (including structured types
if the language supports them), and returning results?
– What debugging facilities does PowerBASIC have? (All I saw mentioned
in the file was a listing of assembly language output with the PowerBASIC
source interspersed.)

If you could post or upload a sample of PowerBASIC code displaying some of
its features, that would help a lot. Thanks.

Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.

Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside

I’m trying to get a 2nd HD working and having problems. The first thing that
I notice is the drive indicator light is on as soon as I power up. Of course
that shouldn’t be. After I configured an H1 module and put it in my boot, I
booted and did a dir /h1. Lock up! Any thoughts on the subject will be
appreciated. I’m using 2 ST277-Ns and a Kenton controller. The jumper
sleeve for H1 is on the first set of pins closest to the center. Since H1
is the first drive on the cable, I removed the 3 sets of pins off the
bottom of the drive. Thats all I can think of now. Thanx Charlie

I recall reading here that someone has Sony monitors for sale and that these
can be used on the Coco3. I’m in need of a monitor and need the party’s
name. Can anyone supply that for me. Thanx Charlie

While visiting a friend yesterday, I saw a commercial for Burn: Cycle.
I was amazed to see an actual well done ad for the CD-I platform. I think
it was on the Comedy Channel.

Hugo

Can anyone answer this question?

From: IN%”78-5750@terranet.bluethun.quake.com” 2-DEC-1994 15:29:54.85
To: IN%”gregl@delphi.com”
Subj: cc3io.dr patches…

Hello Greg,
Marty pointed me in your Direction, as He did not know the Internet
address of Kevin Ddarling…
I’m trying to patch cc3io.dr from Version 2.00.01 of Level II OS-9 as so
to properly recieve OS-9 Escape sequences over the phone-line properly…
My first attempts at patching it with Information in Rainbow (2/88 I
believe), and Confirmed by Mike Guzzi (ApBBS Pensylvania 1-717-586-2771) was
interactively (not using a file and the -s option of modpatch) screwed up cc3io
royally… Then I tried the -s option and the file method, most bytes this time
around gave me a “byte does not match” warning, but other than that seems to
function MOSTLY… I was wondering if there was a specific patch needed or not
for this version of CC3io.dr

Edition: $10
Mod CRC: $F737C2

Any help is appreciated…

Also speaking of Mods…. I heard there was a 1 byte mod for os9p1 that seemed
to cut down on the overhead considerably enough that 9600bps was reliable…
I have the Eddie Kuns Edition 9 Clock Modules < Bigger than Level II's
Edition 9 clock modules>, SACIA, VRN, and NIL added to increase speed, but only
wound up with at best a near 100% ability of ANSI at 4800bps using Supercomm
2.2.

Thanks in advance…

-Later!
-SS-
FidoNet Address: William Barnes@1:239/1100
InterNet Address: 78-5750@bluethun.quake.com

“This new language (PowerBasic) may be the most significant thing to
come along for OS9 in the last ten years!”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOW SHIPPING < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

PowerBasic for OS9/68000

Finally, someone wrote a BASIC compiler for OS9!

PowerBasic is the only native (68000) code BASIC compiler for use with
the OS-9/68000 Operating System.

——

I’ve just uploaded information on PowerBasic to the DL. Two files, one
gives the promo information and the other covers a introductory offer
that saves you $50 if ordered by the end of the month. Over the next
several days I will be uploading a more complete technical spec and
examples in PowerBasic source and object that you can try on your own
computer. I’ve downloaded a whole bunch of Basic09 programs from the DL
here and I plan to use some of them as examples also. My intent is to
see and show what is involved in converting regular Basic09 type
programs to PowerBasic and what speed and size advantages there are. If
you have any other suggestions you would like to see me try please let
me know.

I got my copy of PowerBasic just before Thanksgiving and have been
getting up to speed on it. So far I like it very much. The compiler runs
fast and the resultant code generated is also fast. Much much faster
than Basic09. I’ve been having fun looking at the ‘.a’ files to see what
assembler code is generated by PowerBasic and to watch how changes in
the Basic program effect the assembler code. PowerBasic makes this easy
because the Basic source line is inserted into the ‘.a’ file as a
comment.

PowerBasic object is stand alone, no ‘runb’ type of thing is needed. I
like this because it keeps the whole project as one program. No need to
worry about having all the pieces needed to make something work.

I’m looking for feedback so please feel free to ask questions and make
suggestions.

Thanks
Frank Hogg
FHL

OS-9 Late Night
Open Forum
Monday December 5,1994 at 10:00pm (est)

Please come on in, for the usual laid back chat of any
kind. Since some of the more knowledgeable OS-9′ers and Coco
Hackers tend to attend these conferences, an Open Forum like
the ones we have been having are good times to come in and
ask that question that’s been nagging you or holding up your
latest programming project. Btw, hopefully I will soon have
the schedual for December and January all set. I have one
confirmed special conference coming up in January on the
16th. Members of the ‘Glenside Color Computer Club’(Brian
please correct me if the name is wrong), will be on hand to
discuss the upcoming Cocofest in Chicago! This is one you
won’t want to miss, especially if your looking for details
on how to be there. Btw, if you do need details on the fest,
you can send email to ‘Theschu’. He is the president of
Glenside, and can help fill you in!

See Ya
>Chris<

Now available! The “Inside 2-Meg” booklet from DISTO. Its a full description
of the DISTO 2-Meg Kit. Schematic diagrams, PAL listing and a full chip by
chip description of how it works. Send $20 + $2.50 S/H to DISTO 1710 Depatie,
St. Laurent Quebec, Canada H4L 4A8. -Tony.

Boisy, wouold you know if the Panasonic CDO machines are anything like the
CD-i? I mean as far as compatibility with games or movies. Someone here
recently purchased one for their kids (I told them CD-i would be better
supported through Sears!!). It is similar in concept, but I think I read
somewhere that it isn’t compatible with CD-i games. But are the movies?
I seem to recal that the movies aren’t a Phillips standard, so they may be
compatible. Any comments?

Dear Friends:

I am trying to help out a friend who needs to obtain
a 20-30 meg MFM 5-1/4″ half-height hard drive. Something
like an St-225 or St-238 would be fine. Please let me
know price and shipping terms.

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: With all best wishes, :::::: 2 Kings 2:23-24 :::
:: Brother Jeremy, CSJW :::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: OS9 Users Group Treasurer :: revwcp@delphi.com ::
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: CIS – 76477,142 :::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

28-NOV-1994 02:50:07.30
From: IN%”jeffv@PHYSICS.UBC.CA” “Jeff Vavasour”
Subj: CoCo 3 Emulator, IMPORTANT

Well, with others putting out notices about the CoCo 3 emulator,
there are a few things I feel I should post to clear up:
1. The CoCo 3 emulator is available only by registration.

2. Registration info is found in the *new* ver 1.40 release of
the CoCo 2 emulator, which should appear on SimTel FTP mirror
sites shortly. The file is coco2-14.zip (*not* coco2-13.zip).
One SimTel site is oak.oakland.edu, the directory is
pub/msdos/emulator.

3. Those who contributed to Rick Cooper’s CoCo Emulator Bounty
Escrow Fund will receive credit up to the full value of the
registration fee, $25. (I’m taking the monthly report in CFDM’s
Forum as authoritative on who contributed, and how much. Please
contact Rick if there is any error in your entry in this report.)

4. Those who contributed in excess of the $25 to the Fund will
receive a typeset printed version of the manual with their copy.
(This is a bounus available *only* to those who contributed to the
Fund in excess of $25.)

5. Those who did not contribute to the Fund may obtain a copy of
the emulator for $25 by following the instructions in Section 8 of
the CoCo 2 emulator’s documentation.
(The file is COCO.DOC in coco2-14.zip.)

6. Please take time to follow verify that you have the correct
system requirements by reading the COCO.DOC file and following the
test procedure for your VGA card and disk drives.

Please feel free to repost this message anywhere you can. There
appear to be rumours and speculation circulating already, which
I’d like to clear up.

Again, the CoCo 3 emulator is not in itself shareware. The CoCo
2 emulator is shareware in that, if you register it, you get the
CoCo 3 emulator. The CoCo 3 emulator is only available to those
who register, and is not freely distributable.

- Jeff

P95 (these are Hewlett Packard palmtops)

There has been qpuite a flurry of messages about theh release of Jeff’s
CC3 Emulator. Most of it (but only most) true. But little has
upght up in a firpestoem
of others ideas. Some pure speculation! It is NOT PD, and SHOULD NOT
BE in downloads anywhere!
Jr
Jeff has written a heck of a program,, give him a day to think things through
and there will be a fair chance for everyone.

Terry Simons UPGRADE Editor

I have the source to the latest version of zip/unzip (5.0). If anyone
would like to port it to OSK, please let me know and I’ll send you the
source.

I would do it, but am involved in too many things as it is. It sure
would be nice to have this latest version ported over.

Well, I haven’t had this much fun in years. Anybody else
want to play? The givens- a 1 meg 6809 and disto drive. Needed a
new boot badly. trot out all the old favorites…..
Results- after remembering the attr thing, a deblob (just
repositioned) to get the floppies writing, looks ok, except std*
won’t merge to /w, and I cannot install term_win. Term_vdg works
fine, extra windows look ok, MVue even starts (without fonts).
Ezgen term_win in – boot failed way back in the OS9 BOOT
stage. Tried 3 windints, 2 scf, and serveral term,w,etc descripts
So I’m quite stuck. Anybody?

-ricku

Rick Ulland CoNect
rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St.
“Operating System Nine”- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214

OS-9 Late Night
Monday November 28, 1994 at 10:00 PM(EST)
Topic:Open Forum

As usual, come one,come all! There is quite a bit going on in
our little ‘Cult Society’ as of late. Boisy Pitre has a new
terminal program for the MM/1, CD-I is really going over well,
and I’m gonna have a TON of Basic09 questions, so please be
there!

By the way, I should hopefully have the schedual for BOTH
December and January shortly after this Monday’s conference, so
do keep your eyes open for that.

See Ya!
>Chris<

512K CoCo III System for Sale
———————————————

> HARDWARE <
512K CoCo III w/6309 PowerBoost installed, spare 6809s.
(Practical Peripherals 512K Board)
64K CoCo II “F” Board Design
Magnavox 8CM515 RGB/comp. Monitor
FD-500 Disk Drive Case & Controller
w/two TEAC FD-55BR drives installed (720K DS)
CoCo III upgraded MultiPak
Commplus 2400 BPS Modem
RS-232 Pak w/socketted 6551A chip.
ORCH-90 Stereo Music Pak
CCR-81 Cassette Recorder
Blue Streak Serial to Parallel Printer Interface
2 ea. Deluxe Joysticks (two button)
2 ea Regular Joysticks (one button)
Two button mouse.
One button mouse

> SOFTWARE <
OS-9 Level Two MultiVue Deskmate 3
Home Publisher
Dynacalc for OS-9 C Compiler For OS-9 Basic09
Disk Editor Assembler
Phantomgraph Bio-Sphere Rogue
Rescue on Fractulus
Koronis Rift Microscopic Mission Sub Battle
Robot Odyssey I
Carmen SanDiego Kings Quest III CoCo Max III
Crystal City
Telewriter-64 Telepatch Gwana-Bwana
Micro-Ilustrator
InterBank Incident PitStop II Shamus
Bugs
Galagon Buzzard Bait Cubix
The King
Zeus Bedlam Raaka-Tu
The Third Rainbow Book of Adventures

> ROM PAKS <
Rampage Predator Rad Warrior
Robocop
Malcolm Mortar Mind-Roll Super Pitfall
Football II
Castle of Tharoggad Silpheed StarBlaze
Project Nebula
Microbes Poltergiest

> BOOKS, MANUALS, ETC. <
Technical Reference Manual for CoCo II
Technical Reference Manual for CoCo III
The Complete Rainbow Guide to OS-9
Assembly Language Graphics – Don Inman & Kurt Inman
6809 Assembly Language Programing – Lance Leventhal
Disk BASIC Unravelled
Extended Color BASIC Unravelled
Super Color BASIC Unravelled

100+ Public Domain Programs for RSDOS & OS-9

NOTES:
All equipment and software is in COMPLETE working condition and
the system was working reliably last time used.
Everything except a few items has the original packaging.
Am asking $350 for this “bundled” sale. Includes the shipping.
Everything sold “as-is”. No warranties implied or intended.

Rick McNabb

Contact me at the following addresses:
DELPHI – RICKMAC
Compuserve – 76675,3612
Internet – RICKMAC@DELPHI.COM

Can somebody tell me if the MM/1 works properly with monitors that can
only sync down to a horizontal frequency of 31.5 KHz? I will be buying a
monitor in the near future, and I need one which will be MM/1 compatible. I
have heard that the MM/1 is switchable between 15.75 and 31.5 KHz, but that
the current drivers cannot support the latter frequency.

-=Mark=-

SORRY All!

Due to an unforseen problem (the supplier is sold out!!) I will not be
able to supply the CDRom kits I was hoping to offer (see msg # 90768).
Tho if I can find another source, (based on your response) I’ll pick up
a few immeadiatly!!

I can, however, still offer the software:

Descriptor, Drivers, and File Manager with the audio player (VCDP)

for $50 shipping and handling included.

And the Adapter Cable (connects internal SCSI cable to external DB-25

for $25 shipping and handling included.

The External Single Speed SCSI CD Rom drives are available from smaller
retailers (see Computer Shopper etc.) for around $100 or so.

Sorry Again!

Chris

:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris “HAWKSoft” < -: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:

Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM

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Happy Thanksgiving to all! The holiday season is here again, thanx to everyone
for making the “CoCo experience” very interesting and informative.

Will be putting up a 512K/6309 CoCo3 system for sale. anyone interested?
Will post a classified within the week. Comes with a Magnavox monitor and
almost everything else ‘cept a hard drive and a printer.

Also have an “F” board CoCo2 with 64K. All details will be in the classified
ad I will post.
Rick McNabb

Hi All!

I’ve found a source for refurbished external CD Rom Drives (bare, so to
speak). Using these drives (CDR25J), I would be able to sell a complete
Plug and Play CD Rom Kit. Would anyone (everyone?) be interested???

Kit would include:

External NEC CD Rom Drive
Power Supply
Adapter Cable (from internal SCSI cable to back-plane mount DB-25. Mounts
in printer cut-out on back of computer.)
External Cable (from DB-25 to CD Rom Drive)
Descriptor
Driver
File Manager
Audio CD Software ( Virtual CD Player )

Cost would run about $150 complete incuding U.S. Shipping.

Requires OSK computer with a WD33c93 (or WD 33c93A) SCSI interface.

If there is enough interest, I can have them available in a few weeks.

Chris

:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris “HAWKSoft” < -: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:

Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM

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Hi All!

Just a quick note. My new utility for reading directories and copying files
from BOTH CDRom and CD-i discs (one utility) has been uploaded to delphi
and should be available soon. Requires a CDRom reader, driver, and decriptor
(anyone’s should work, mine included).

BUT my CDRom File Manager (CDF) will make it obsolete very soon!!!!

Chris

:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris “HAWKSoft” < -: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:

Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM

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Is there a version of OS9 that will run on an Intel 486 ? Also has there been
any statement for OS9 and the Power PC ?

***OS-9 Late Night***
Open Topic
Monday November 21, 10:00 PM est

I might not be there myself, but I’ll try to show. Since I have
to be up very early Tuesday morning, I can’t really spend much time
online, but since it’s just an open conference anyway, you won’t need
me there

Last week was a pretty good conference, so let’s keep up the
momentum!

See Ya
>Chris<

Hi all,

I thought I’d let everyone know about my latest CD-i acquisitions

o Naked Gun 33 1/3 — The MPEG encoding on this movie is *VERY* good.
I was very impressed. Like other movies, this one came on two discs.
This movie has VIDEO CD across the bottom; I presume that this movie
would be able to be played in a dedicated Video CD player. A very
good job on this one.

o Sargon Chess — Very very cool! I’m not a great chess player, but
thought this classic program would be cool to have. It has a very
nice tutorial on chess playing and strategy for beginners. There
are three modes: Novice, Beginner and Expert. You can play against
“Sargon” as white or black, or let Sargon play against himself. You
can also edit the board with pieces and locations you want. This
feature is great to examine strategy. Again, Sargon can play against
himself even in this mode.

You can select either a 2D or 3D chess perspective. 3D has several
chess sets (marble, wood, etc.) There’s nice music or comment by
Sargon when making a move, or you can opt for silence. You also have
the option of timing moves and viewing elapsed or cumulative time, or
no time at all.

I ordered Clue (based on the Parker Brothers board game) but haven’t gotten
it yet. As soon as I do I’ll post my observations.
–
Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ Delphi: BOISY
|_ _| \ \/ / CompuServe: 74464,3005
I use… _| |_ > < Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us
|_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 — King of Operating Systems

Can anyone tell me the pinout of a pc clone type parallel printer cable?
I is the kind that hase a 25pin dsub at on end and a 36pin centronics
connector at the other.
Thanks,
Wayne

e Haaland of Hyper-tech software is still around and
if ther where any updates to MVCanvas from version 2? I would like to see
world.
Don

Hey, Gang, I have a question. Why doesn’t the following work?

I have tried this both on my OSK and CoCo, and get similar results.
The program as written will continue to loop, keeping getting the “AT”
and “OK”, with some other gibberish. It seems to keep writing and reading
the modem.

If the while{} statement is not used, and The Alternate Method, commented
out, here, is used, if you write something to the modem, then you keep
getting a positive value returned from _gs_rdy(). If you do the for loop
without writing to the modem, you keep getting a -1 returned, which is
correct. But if something has been written, it looks like the pointer
is not getting updated, and, in fact, it seems that it keeps getting rewritten
to the serial port.. strange.. or am I overlooking something?

Note: this is the coco version, but, as I said, OSK seems to act the same
way. This here is just a test program.. but it still looks like it SHOULD
work. I’ve also tried time loop delays between reads, etc, but still
no luck.. I can’t see why it keeps sending to the modem..

#include
#include

int mdm;
char buf(30);
char cmd(10) = “AT\x0d”; /* try something else, too */

main()
{
int count, state;

if ( (mdm=open(“/t2″,UPDATE)) == -1)
exit(1);

write( mdm,cmd,3);

while ((state=_gs_rdy(mdm)) > 0 ) {
printf(“\x0a_gs_rdy()=%d Read()=%d “,
state, read( mdm,buf,state ) );
fflush(stdout);
write( 1,buf,state );
}

/* Alternate method */
/* if the above after the open() is deleted, _gs_rdy() returns
-1, but if the write() call is left in, it goes crazy */
for (count=1;count<10;count++ ) {
printf(“_gs_rdy()=%d\n”,_gs_rdy(mdm) );
} /* End Alternate method */

close(mdm);
}

— David Breeding –
CompuServe : 72330,2051
Delphi : DBREEDING

*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^

Anybody know how many MOTD’s came out since May? I’ve only received one.
Just wondering if I was “automatically” deleted (grin).

Sometime, long ago–I read some cocolist mail concerning someone’s
homebrew 2 Meg simm board for their CoCo. I just happen to have 2 Meg’s
worth of 256 X 8 simms laying around, and would like to fabricate an
adapter board for MY CoCo. In order to prepare for this task, I ordered
NEC’s Memory data book from JDR Microdevices out here in CA, and now have
a pinout for these simms, but I DONT have a schematic that I’ll certainly
need in order to assemble the desired memory board. I could make a 512k
board easily, but if some very kind CoCo-ist out there would oblige me, I
will assemble a 1 or 2 Meg board that I would much prefer. At this moment
I have sockets, memory, a suitable protoboard, a little time, much desire,
a lot of patience, and much hope.

Please, someone HELP!! I’d very much appreciate it, and if an SASE and
some valuable consideration within the means of the typical married CoCo-nuts
limited budget will help, I’m game.

Long-winded, happy, one taco short of a combination plate and 2NIBBLES
short of a byte.

Help!

I’ve been trying to compile Palm 2.2 and have been unsuccessful. This
is on a 3-Meg MM1 using the compiler that shipped with the machine. The
following is the error output I get from the compiler after running MAKE
with “makefile.osk.”

Symbol ‘strtok’ unresolved.
Referenced 2 times by psect ‘misc_c’ in file ‘misc.r’
Symbol ‘_environ’ unresolved.
Referenced by psect ‘misc_c’ in file ‘misc.r’
Symbol ‘strchr’ unresolved.
Referenced 13 times by psect ‘termio_c’ in file ‘termio.r’
Referenced 2 times by psect ‘strip_c’ in file ‘strip.r’
Referenced 2 times by psect ‘setup_c’ in file ‘setup.r’
Referenced 3 times by psect ‘parse_adrs_c’ in file ‘parse_adrs.r’
Referenced 2 times by psect ‘getstring_c’ in file ‘getstring.r’
Referenced 4 times by psect ‘getname_c’ in file ‘getname.r’
Referenced by psect ‘explode_c’ in file ‘explode.r’
l68: error – unresolved references

The following is the beginning of the makefile that I’m using:

**************************************************************************
* Makefile for Palm v2.1 – OS-9/68K Version
* Jeff Shepler – 10/93

** Choose which UUCP package you are using:
** RICK – Rick Adams’ UUCP package version 4.2 (or lower??)
** BOB – Bob Billson’s UUCP package version 2.0

** Note that this makefile is constructed for Ultra C
** Minimal changes are needed for GCC and MW C V3.2

_UUCP = BOB

CC = cc
RDIR = .
ODIR = /dd/cmds
NEWLIBS = -l=/dd/lib/termlib.l -l=/dd/lib/clib.l -l=/dd/lib/sys.l
CFLAGS = -I -d$(_UUCP) -d_OSK -v=.
LFLAGS = $(CFLAGS) $(NEWLIBS) -M=8k

If the linker can’t find “strtok,” “strchr,” and “_envrion,” what do
I have to do to compile the program???

As it is, one portion of the source code – termio.c – generates several
screenfuls of errors and warnings. John Donaldson was kind enough to
send me his version of termio.c which appears to be much better.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Better yet, if someone can
email me just the executable, that would be enough for me.

Thanks.
Hugo

NEWS RELEASE
NEWS RELEASE
NEWS RELEASE
Here are the 5 “W’s”
WHO? 1) The Glenside Color Computer Club of Illinois presents
WHAT? 2) The Fourth Annual “Last” Chicago CoCoFEST!
WHEN? 3) April 29th & 30th, 1995 (Sat. 10am-6pm; Sun. 10am-4pm)
WHERE? 4) HOLIDAY INN ELGIN (A Holidome Indoor Recreation Center)
345 W. River Road (A city block from I-90 & IL-31S)
Elgin, Illinois (Same great location as last year!)
Overnight room rate: $55.00 (plus 10% tax)
Call 1-708-695-5000 for reservations.
Be sure to ask for the “Glenside” or “CoCoFEST!” rate.
>>>>> YOU MUST REGISTER UNDER COCOFEST TO GET THIS RATE < <<<<
WHY? 5) A. To provide vendor support to the CoCo Community
B. To provide Community support to the CoCo Vendors
C. To provide educational support to new users.
D. TO HAVE AN OUTRAGEOUSLY GOOD TIME!!!!!
And now, the “H” word.
HOW MUCH? 1) Admission: $8.00 at the door, 2-day pass
$5.00 at the door, 1-day pass
Advance ticket sales: $5.00 + SASE for the whole show or
$5.00 + $.50 postage & handling
Children 8 and under FREE
Contact: George Schneeweiss, Treasurer
Glenside Color Computer Club
RR#2 Box 67
Forrest, IL 61741-9629
For further information, general or exhibitor, contact:
Tony Podraza, Fest Chairman Carl Boll, Vice President, GCCCI
708-428-3576, VOICE 312-735-6087, VOICE
708-428-0436, BBS 312-735-3355, BBS
DELPHI-CBJ
Brian Schubring, President, GCCCI
708-529-3539, VOICE
DELPHI-THESCHU

Tony,
I am thinking about building a PIA based parallel port using
the mini expansion bus in my SC2. My question involves the Chip Enable
__
(CE) pin (#13). What state is this pin in when address $FF50 is selected
on the coco bus? I think that it would be low, but I want to make sure.
I plan to map the pia into $FF50-FF53. I am using Mike Guzzi’s PPIA.AR
as a guideline. In that file he decodes the pia into $FF70-$FF73 and
builds a separate pak to plug in his MPI. After studying his guidelines
I started looking at my SC2′s MEB since it is already decoded and should
be relatively easy to use for the project and end up saving a slot on my
MPI to boot!
To clarify, let me restate the question:
When $FF50 is shown on the coco bus, what is the state of pin 13
( chip enable) of the MEB?
Thanks,
Wayne

I tried to implement ‘MultiBoot’ tonight and keep getting error
#207 stack
full. I unloaded my startup files and rebooted, same problem. Anyone here
using Sub-Etha’s ‘Multiboot’ have this problem? If so, how do I solve it?
Any help will be appreciated. Thanx Charlie

I recently posted a request for information re the signal() and
_os_intercept() functions in UCC. Here’s what I learned:

It’s not necessary to _os_sigmask() unless you need to clear or increnment
the signal mask.

To second parameter should be _glob_data which is initialized in cstart just
for this purpose. Microware overlooked this in it’s documentation

The process becomes:

void SignalCatcher(sig)
int sig;
{
/* process the signal */
_os_rte()
}

main(argc,argv)
int argc;
char *argv();
{
extern void *_glob_data;

_os_intercept(SignalCatcher,_glob_data);
}

BTW, using debug it looks like _os_intercept has less overhead than the old
intercept() function in the 3.2 compiler.

Thank for the information goes to Peter Dibble, A.B. Cohen Stuart and
Ruediger Nahm-Elstner (PEP Modular Computers).

Stephen Carville – pagan@delphi.com

In the Color Computer SIG data base, in the GENERAL section, is
a 14K long text file I just wrote that gives the history of the PGP
public RSA encryption software, AND tells you how to use Delphi
(assuming you are at a site in the USA) to obtain a copy of the latest
(and now legal) release of PGP, version 2.6.2. (You do have to
be a member of the Internet SIG, with acess to FTP and Telnet capabilities
of Delphi.)

While PGP is available only for the PC compatible and Macintosh platforms,
there IS available from the same FTP site that has the program
SOURCE CODE for the program, which might allow OS68K types to port
it to their machines.

—marty

Greetings All!

I’m looking for a few brave souls to beta-test the first release of my new
CDRom File Manager (CDF). It works fine with all the utilities I’ve thrown
at it (dir, copy, attr, load (). And I need someone(s)
to wring it old real good!

You need:

An OSK based computer.
a 33c93A SCSI controller chip (like the MM/1)
an NEC SCSI CDRom reader (others may work, maybe not)

I will supply the File Manger and descriptor. If you have the CDRom reader
then you probably have the driver (rbvccs and scsi_mm1d vr #27). If not, I can
supply them too.

Send me E-Mail if you are willing to try it out.

To whet your appetites, here is a dir of a CD-i disc:( 7th Guest )

Directory of /cd 19:25:38
abstract bibliographic cdi_loader cdi_nodv cdi_t7g
copyright green path_tbl

Chris

:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris “HAWKSoft” < -: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:

Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM

******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >******************

Hi all,
After all the discussion of CDI here I figure I better get
around to asking what kind of files are on a CDI disk? I do have a
CD reader hooked to my MM1 and Chris Hawk’s utility to copy from
CDI. Are there sound files (iff) on those CDI disks that I could
bring to my MM1 HD and play? Are there images on those disks that
could be displayed on the MM1? I might go buy a CDI disk just to
explore …..

Bests
—TedJaeger

Anyone notice that you can log into Delphi (at least on Sprintnet) at 14.4k
baud recently? I normally call in on my Coco at 9600, but have the PC fired
up tonight and lo and behold…CONNECT 14400/MNP COMPRESSED. Maybe I missed
something somewhere, or maybe Sprintnet is finally starting to upgrade!

Thanx Keith, reseating the CPU board did the trick. I’m back in business.
..Charlie…

Eprommer update- Awhile back, Br.Jeremy posted a question about
an ‘Aval PRW1000′ programmer (no docs). The repost is needed
because I’ve figured it out (close, anyway) and this ain’t yer
average programmer.
It’s a very pricey looking (actually, looks like an Apple
)(e with a calculator stuck on it) just add modules job, with one
included that covers 2716 to 27c256 (and the a’s) (in intel,
fuji, and std). Using just the hexpad, you can read two decb
eproms (moving one up 8K), and rewrite the dual version- in about
3 minutes flat if you don’t bend any pins. You can shrink big
endians and flip the bits _in_the_programmer_! But the crux of
the biscuit ‘rip is it rts/cts 3 different formats right out the
serial port without a host program. (With OS9+DevPak to do the s
records…wow! they were right, it is a DevPak! Might have a
product here- OS9 burns, the ROM)

So now I’m _very_ eagerly looking for any more pieces, docs,
etc. PALS and so on ought to be in this boxes range- be thankful
if you’d take a second look at any beige hi-end programmer
modules you run across festing- there is a bounty;-)
-ricku

Rick Ulland CoNect
rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St.
“Operating System Nine”- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214

Mike,
I am in the process of building a parallel port as described in your
ppia.ar file and have run into a slight problem. The 74ls133 is not in
my ttl databook, (it says to look in the supplement, which I don’t have)
and I need pin-outs. Could you send me the pin-outs? My other question
is regarding the db25 connector you talk about in the text file.
I have a pc clone type printer cable laying around and was wondering if
you knew the pin assignments of that particular cable? (It has a male
db25 connector at one end and a 36pin centronics at the other.)
Now for some opinions. After reading your file (very good work, I must
say) I can see that with the correct driver, these 2 parallel ports can
be bi-directional, now I wonder what kind of performance is possible
in bi-derectional mode. ie. Is it fast enough to utilize some of the
pc compatible parallel port devices such as hard drives and tape backups?
Also, I have seen a few external modems that have a parallel port to
hook up to a pc parallel port for VERY high speed comunication. (28.8k and up)
I know that these types are extremely expensive at this time, but how
difficult would it be to utilize (ie. write the proper driver) one of
these modems with the Eliminator style parallel port?
Thanks,
Wayne

Hello all,

On behalf of my friend Jason, I’ve posted in the classifieds here
in the SIG, an AD describing his MM1 that he would like to sell.
The AD should be available in the next 24 hours. Thanks to all
that respond to the AD. All inquiries welcome!

Jeff Yoder, (JAYODER) N2ZDS

Hello everyone,
I have been experiencing these little anomolies that drive me batty.
First of all, does anyone know why I am losing my cursor every time I
leave MAIL? Working without a cursor is like driving a car at night
with the lights out. Another thing are these random characters I
get when I sit idle as in reading a message here. My cusror
moves of its own accordd and leaves random characters behind. In pairs.
Most of the time I get “..” but other times I get characters That I do
not think the CoCo is capable of generating.

I read in a message that someone has a 63c09 processor in thier CoCo.
I have a HD63B09EP. What, if any, is the difference between the “b”
and the “c”. These random characters are driving me crazy! I
have a hard time determining where I am in this text. If I have to back-
space, I have to take into account that I have X number of characters I
did not type. If I backspace I need to backspace -X number of random
characters. Anyway, back to the processor. I would like to find
out anything about the difference, please. Thanks for any input, in
advance. See ya.

LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in!

-= 01GEN40 =-

Does anyone know if the TodayOs9 and Ribbstoday commands, the ribbstoday one in
particular, in the telecom database works with R
RiBBS v2.10? A friend has it and he said when he runs the ribbstoday from the
menu it crashes the bbs. He followed the docs which simply say to put the data
in a TODAY directory on his /dd and the command module in his exec dir. The
attr’s have been set (
e pe). If this is for RiBBS 2.0 is there a newer version or a patch?

Starting Dec 1 ’94 to the end of the year, all remaining DISTO products will
be sold at a 15% discount. Leave email for availability. -Tony.

Does anyone know how to use the signal() and _os_intercept() functions in
Ultra C? I’m trying to get a transfer program working under OS9 & OS9000
and both calls are causing unexpected problems. I’m doing the development
under OS9/68000.

globally defined variables:

volatile sig_atomic_t
g_sigmodem=0,
g_abort=0;

path_id modempath;

Using signal():

void ModemSignal(sig)
int sig;
{
signal(sig,modemsignal); /* reset signal handling */
g_sigmodem++; /* set flag */
}

This worked fine in the short test program but blew up the main program with
when I returned from the put character routine:

S_PutC(ch)
int ch;
{
u_int32 size=1;
u_char khar=ch;

_os_write(modempath,&khar,&size);
return;
}

Sometime the program quit with an error #103 (address trap error) or locked
up or went out and stomped all over another module. When I move the signal
reset into the body of the program the error dissappears but resetting the
signal handling from within the main program is not going to work with real
world signals. I suppose I could mask interupts in the signal handler and
unmask after checking the flag but that seems a little clumsy to me.

I tried using _os_intercept(). The prototype is:

error_code _os_intercept(void (*)(), void *);

I can set up a signal handler easily enough:

void SignalCatcher(sig)
int sig;
{
_os_sigmask(1); /* mask signals */
switch(sig) /* set appropiate flag */
{
case SER_SIG:
g_sigmodem++;
break;
case SIGINT:
case SIGQUIT:
g_abort++;
break;
}
_os_sigmask(0); /* unmask signals */
_os_rte(); /* go back */
}

but where does that second void * come from? Under OS9 I’ve tryed passing
it as 0 and as “void *void_ptr” which will compile but _os_intercept()
returns an error #225 (Bad Parameter) and doesn’t set any intercept.
Passing it as an address of a global variable (&g_sigmodem) won’t compile in
extended ANSI mode – I haven’t tried that with -bc set.

The program works fine with the old intercept() call but that requires
linking with the -bc flag and there is no guarantee that Microware will
continue support for the backward compatability mode.

Stephen (PAGAN)

I have tried to get your new clock for the Disto 4n1 going but I seem to have
a problem – I get a boot fail every time I try to boot with it. I can remove
it and boot just fine. I am using a 63c09 ,4n1 , scsi drive, and do most of my
boot from the harddrive. all I have on the boot disk is OS9BOOT. I have moved
modules and some other stuff but still get a boot fail. Can you help.
Don

Just in case someone asks, or wonders where I am–I’m going off the
figurative air for what I hope is a short interval. I am about to (finally!)
start the process of moving stuff to a new hard drive, which entails making
one last backup and moving everything over to the new drive. Once the smoke
clears, I’ll fire up ix again and be back in the–aw, heck, I was about to
use some “information superhighway”/cyberpunk cliche. bubbles emerging from mouth> But anyway, during the interval, I don’t want
to change files or accumulate new ones.

So…back shortly.

Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.

Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside

What does -b do? We ran into a major problem with ix caused by
shell+ stubborn isnsistance that every program have at least 8K
of data space. (ix needs 1 page, or 256bytes). Perhaps klondyke
trips the same bug.

Paul Seniura published a modpatch script (in system? dbase)
that is very clever but doesn’t work as written. The gist of it
is-

l shell
c 130f 1f 01
v

get his file for more info. Also, the diskcat/ix thread here….

-ricku

Rick Ulland CoNect
rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St.
“Operating System Nine”- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214

This thread is 6 years old, but I encountered the problem at least 4
years old, so i’m chiming in…

The error message: “linker fatal: out of dref nodes”

I get this error when trying to compile something like this:
char (*func_key())(256);

splitting it into two 128 member arrays solved the problem.

At the time I wrote to Microware on their Compu$erve forum.
I’m still waiting for them to reply.

I couldn’t get it to work with Shell + either. When i boot from a stock
shell, I can run with the -b option. I have no idea if it’s due to shell +
or some other module though.

-Mike Rowen

I need help. I’m having trouble with Klondike. When I try to run it
using the command line “klondike -b” I get an error 187 illegal arugment.
If I use “klondike” the game run perfectly.

I’m using shell +. I have 512k and 314k free after boot. In my startup file
I merge stdpats_4,stdfonts and stdprts,mostly for multivue whenever I use
it.

Thanks for any help in advance!

James

***OS-9 Late Night***
Monday, November 7 at 10:00pm est
Topic:Open Forum

Okay folks, this week I DIDN’T forget the reminder Everyone
is welcome to attend tomorrow. It is another Open Forum so everything
and anything OS-9/Coco/Computer whatever related is welcome. I’m
always up for good Basic09 Chat myself if anyone is interested, or
perhaps shell Programming with ShellPlus. That’s just me, so bring
what interests you

See Ya Tomorra
>Chris<

Well a bit late but Happy 60th. Hope that there are lots more highway
miles in the old body.
Thanks for the RBF fixes, but dare I use them at Version 1? . iI’ve had
to go back to V.28 on the BBS with the new 130 meg drive, didn’t want to
think about an allocation map that big at 1 sector per. Almost the first thing
I did of course was to delete a file I didn’t mean to.
So now we may be ok. I’ll pass them on to Gene K. see how rbf30B( ? i thin
k)
works on his Powerboost system. Talk to you again soon.
Mmerv
Damn old keyboard…..

*Cybermania ’94*, the first annual interactive game awards show, is ending
as I type. Results of interest to OS-9/CD-i users:

Best Comedy: *The Wacky World of Miniature Golf*
Best Sports: *Caesar’s World of Boxing*
Best Actress: Grace Zabriskie, *Voyeur*
Best Actor: Robert Culp, *Voyeur*

(Drat! I should’ve taken notes, because I have a feeling I’ve forgotten
something. They’re going to immediately rerun it, probably for the West
Coast contingent, so I’ll post any additions needed. One thing that I
should add is that there were other CD-i nominees, one that comes to mind
being Mickey Rooney for *Great Day at the Races*.)

I guess *Burn:Cycle* wasn’t up for an award, having come out *very*
recently, BUT there was a very good segment on it, and if there’s ANY
justice on this earth (*pace* Larry Niven and *Ringworld*), it ought to
sweep everything for which it’s nominated next time around. (I just
got my copy, and words fail me.)

Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.

Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside

Gene,

Exactly right on the diode- Fast232 (16550) and Mini232
(65c51) do this now- BTW cheap _silicon_ diode;-) and still get
a good spike.

Fast232 is a fluke. We run it at 1/3 it’s minimum buss
speed, with timings off the chart and the Motachi clocks gated
together, and it works, for no reason at all. Haven’t been able,
on MototoMoto or HittoMoto, yet. They did that on purpose!

PS “CoCoZ – it even works on VAX!” really weird to be compliant.
-ricku

Rick Ulland CoNect
rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St.
“Operating System Nine”- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214

There is a “BUG” in the play mode of Shanghai. It doesn’t severly interfere
with the game play,, and is over looked by those who have seen it.
This doesn’t include the rare unsolvable puzzle.

The first one with an answer,, will recieve a very nice prize,, yet to be
announced. (choice RS or OS)
Note: I’ve also posted this on th Rs or CoCo SIG. While they (RSDOS’ers)
are more likely to beat out an OS’er. I thought I’d give you
a shot at it.
Terry Simons UPGRADE Editor